QT: What's the difference between a man who says he is a woman & a man who doesn't say he is a woman?

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[–]peakingatthemomentTranssexual (natal male), HSTS 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It’s not wrong, but it doesn’t seem like an honest way to describe trans people most of the time (like that being the important difference). I guess I’m just tired of low effort gotcha questions.

[–]divingrightintowork 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I guess if there wasn't such a Olympian amounts of gymnastics to not answer fairly straightforward questions in a fairly straightforward question manner wouldn't really be here?

"No there's Not necessarily any difference between a man who says he's a woman, and a man who doesn't.."

Other person "okay well why should we make any special exceptions for men who say they're woman, then?"

R: "well because some of these men have gone through a whole lot of processes, where they have removed to the best of their ability anything 'male' about them, And will generally do their best to avoid any sex to spaces, as they understand they don't really fit quite well in either of them, but occasionally would like to feel safe using a sex option while that's the only option. Those people have also likely gotten a gender recognition certificate if they're in the UK, or have had their documents changed through a court process if they're in the US, so that's the difference between at least one specific man who says they're a woman, and a man who says they're a man."

And of course we all know that premise is silly, because you have probably been using women's restrooms for some time without problems well before this all exploded.

But I think you get the idea.