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[–]CatbugMods allow rape victim blaming in this sub :) 9 insightful - 4 fun9 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

The qt answer as I understand it is dysphoria.

Problem is that dysphoria is, mush like dysmorphia, purely subjective and can not be observed. So someone who is legitimately devastated over being male is indistinguishable from someone who has agp and knows the right lines. The people who are truly depressed and would benefit from transition are being drowned out by louder individuals who aren’t suffering banging on about having a fun sexy girlhood at age 45.

[–]SnowAssMan[S] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I thought that was the truscum answer. There are "cis" people with dysphoria too. Dysphoria isn't an identity/demographic. There is no justification to distinguish between people with dysphoria & people without it, likewise there is no justification to group men with dysphoria in with women.

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Yeah it is a very truscum answer, but to be fair the non truscum answers are entirely incomprehensible babble about childhood resentment over toys and a vast sucking need for their identity to be constantly contemplated by others.

Realistically there is no difference between the two men in the OP other than how each man feels. Male is male regardless of presentation or disliking it.