Does GC feminism include trans men?

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[–]GenderbenderShe/her/hers[S] 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

Feminism is about human females. Transmen are human females who want to be perceived as "man gender stereotype" by society.

Lesbian is female homosexual, or female who is only attracted to other females. If transmen is attracted to women, then that transmen is lesbian, because transmen is still female human, and women are adult female humans.

My branch of feminism is about anyone who is perceived as female or has been perceived in their lifetime.

Lesbian is female homosexual, or female who is only attracted to other females. If transmen is attracted to women, then that transmen is lesbian, because transmen is still female human, and women are adult female humans.

If you are a lesbian, would you be attracted a trans man fully into their transition? If you are straight, would you be attracted to a passing trans woman?

It is not GC slang, it is gay men slang, because transmen are demanding sex from them, but homosexuality does not work like that. And their demands are plain homophobia, that is why gay men are namecalling them.

Most trans gay men are not demanding sex from cis gay men. There are some that are, like men do in hetero relationships. But I will be clear that is wrong. No one has the right to demand sex from anyone and people are free to refuse sex for any reason. However, this does not mean trans men can't be in gay spaces like gay saunas. However, whether it's appropriate for a trans men to be there depends on the activities and at what stages of transition the trans man is in.

[–]CatbugMods allow rape victim blaming in this sub :) 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Then your branch is not feminism, it’s feminineism.

It’s not for females, it’s for people who appear feminine. That’s a group of people with wildly different rights, needs, goals, and experiences.

Can whale conservation be considered feminism if I say I want it to or if I say I think it is feminist? How about a group who advocates for men to have the right to sabotage condoms. Can I call that feminist since feminism is not for female people?

[–]GenderbenderShe/her/hers[S] 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

Then your branch is not feminism, it’s feminineism.

At least I don't provide lip service to trans men.

It’s not for females, it’s for people who appear feminine. That’s a group of people with wildly different rights, needs, goals, and experiences.

Most branches of feminism reject transphobia. For instance, when r/gendercritical was still up, a user from that sub answered a question on r/askfeminists. The mod of that sub deleted the comment "TERFs are not allowed to pretend to represent feminism". In fact, the term TERF was coined by a radical feminist to separate GC feminists from other feminists.

Can whale conservation be considered feminism if I say I want it to or if I say I think it is feminist?

Sure, if you're a social justice feminist like I am.

[–]CatbugMods allow rape victim blaming in this sub :) 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Feminism isn’t for women it’s for whales.

Cute how you consistently ignore the parts that can’t be warped into whatever everydayfeminism.com says is right.

Dedicated troll or truly the daftest thing ever typed by anyone older than seven?

[–]VioletRemihomosexual female (aka - lesbian) 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You know, that in many industries, people who will get in rush and compulsively spend a lot of money on something or someone are called "whales"? If talking about those "whales" - then it can make sense, actually. "Our feminism is about people who spend the most money on us".

[–]CatbugMods allow rape victim blaming in this sub :) 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sounds about as feminist as what gb spouts off.