2024 US Election Prediction: Trump will win, but the Democrats will refuse to hand over power and the Supreme Court will elect the democratic candidate to be president, despite the votes. Likely or unlikely?

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[–]iamonlyoneman 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

That's not how it works. There is no functional way to not hand over power peacefully. The person who won, won, and the entire executive branch is under his hand come January 21st. The military is responsible to him, too.

All this fear porn may be amusing for you to masturbate to in your mom's basement where you live, jobless, but it just isn't realistic.

[–]weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

the entire executive branch is under his hand come January 21st

And if they just refuse to acknowledge that? And law enforcement and the military sides with the executive branch?

I'm not saying that's likely, but it's possible. It's called a coup, like when the Ukrainian executive branch illegally and unconstitutionally removed the democratically elected President Viktor Yanukovych in 2014, starting the Ukrainian civil war.

Personally I don't think the US political system has quite gone that far yet, but I wouldn't be surprised to be proven wrong.

[–]iamonlyoneman 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

It's not possible LMAO this ain't a cartoon

[–]weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It's not possible

I just gave you an example where it happened in real life, and you say "it's not possible" 🙄

There's no magic spell that forces people to abide by the results of an election, or to abide by the laws governing political transfer. People have to choose to abide by them. If sufficient people choose to ignore the law, then rule of law in a country falls. When that happens then the laws are meaningless and he who has the support of the most armed men will just do whatever they want.

Possibly risking a civil war, or not.

[–]iamonlyoneman 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Ukraine had an election buddy. It was rigged, but they carried on like the result was legitimate anyway. We did that in 2020, and it's the opposite of what you're fearmongering about here.

[–]weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Ukraine had an election buddy. It was rigged,

Ukraine has had many elections. Which one are you talking about?

they carried on like the result was legitimate anyway. We did that in 2020, and it's the opposite of what you're fearmongering about here.

I've already said that I personally don't think its likely that the US political system has become so corrupt that either side will just outright ignore the law if the election goes against them. But it's definitely a possibility. January 6 was an insurrection like my ass is an oil tanker, but the losing side (or at least influential elements of that side) has accused the winning side of election fraud in at least five of the last six presidential elections.

The entire Trump presidency was characterised by individuals and agencies subverting his orders and trying to undermine his presidency, including the FBI and the military.

One Democrat think-tank openly wargamed scenarios involving violence following the election, and even suggested that California, Oregon and Washington might secede from the Union if Bush won.

Other Democrat-aligned groups openly celebrated what they themselves called a conspiracy to keep Donald Trump out of the Whitehouse.

American democracy is on very think ice, and the problem isn't Trump.

(Not that he's the solution.)