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[–]Alienhunter 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

I think it's basically just dreaming. I don't think there is any real substance behind it. Some can meditate and trigger a kind of lucid dream state and convince themselves that it's "real" even though it's all within their own mind. Doesn't mean that everyone who says they are doing it are lying about it intentionally. But I don't think they are doing anything beyond a kind of lucid dreaming.

Think about it. When you are dreaming even though the dream itself is illogical and stupid it feels real to you while you are in it. That's because your brain has out you into a different state of consciousness. If you can figure out how to trigger that state while awake, well that can trigger hallucinations. They seem real to the person experiencing it at the time, but they aren't real.

[–]SMCAB[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

This makes sense. It's just the way they talk about it like they can travel wherever they want at will, talk to whoever they want that makes it very interesting. I agree with you on this. The only thing is the way they talk about controlling your astral self, like lifting or rolling out of your body at the right time in that state between awake and asleep that makes it seem like you are "going somewhere". Still I agree with you.

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    [–]SMCAB[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    Hahaha that's funny. Makes sense though.

    It's kind of frustrating for me. I personally believe all this stuff, even ghosts and spirits are real, but I have never had any personal interaction or experiences that would help me along to opening my mind to these things. I also think the mind is insanely powerful, and can "play tricks" as they say.

    I don't remember my dreams, very rarely anyway. I seem to always remember the really bad ones though. I can't remember that last time I woke up remembering a nice peaceful or funny dream.

    [–]Vulptex 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    You're probably being monitored. I think certain people are under supermax security. I am definitely one of them.

    [–]SMCAB[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    You know, I feel this way all the time.

    We have all had shitty lives to one degree or another, some worse than others. I'm not sure about the whole Archons keeping me down thing, but I definitely hear you.

    I'm just gonna be real here, not whining, not woe is me, just real. I've accepted it. If my life was a contest, and there was a score being kept for how many times I've been mistreated in the face of doing everything I can to provide and nurture the people I care about, I'm losing big time. The amount of cold people I've come across is insane. The amount of disengenious takers I've come across is insane. It's changed me, I'm angry, I'm bitter, I'm a misogynist, I've lost my empathy, it hurts. I'm in a fair amount of constant pain about it.

    With that said, I truly believe this place is a construct. I believe we can't leave it physically, and I often say that this is hell for another place, another realm, another level, another plane. There is no other explanation for me. This place is a living hell, the amount of work you have to put in to have a fulfilling life is insane. Everything that is good for you is hard, everything that is bad for you is cheap, easy and fun.

    Whoever is pushing my buttons, archon or not, is a fucking masochistic narcissist asshole troll.

    [–]Vulptex 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    It's definitely hell, that's why reincarnation and karma are a thing. I've always noticed how each person seems to have a constant luck value associated with them. The same people keep getting extremely lucky or extremely unlucky. I guess it's a degree of punishment, but since everyone is imperfect they have us imprisoned for good because they can always hold something against us. That the way to succeed is by working hard is a complete lie. I used to think so, back when everything came easy to me. I just assumed everyone else was lazy. Then I had to start actually working hard and still fail every time. And I know my life is still a piece of cake compared to most of the world. I really can't see why anyone wants to live except the luckiest few, because life is nothing but misery for everyone else. Anymore I don't truly look forward to anything but when it's finally over. I think this is the real reason Christ had to "die for our sins", because God having to sacrifice himself to himself to atone for what he is the pardoner of doesn't make any sense. He could simply drop all the charges. In early Christianity he was a ransom, not a blood atonement or a sacrifice.

    [–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    For me, that usually happens during a lucid dream but not a normal one.

    [–]Vulptex 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I can rarely do that too, but I'm never allowed freedom and I'm always woken up or swept into a normal dream shortly afterwards. Something is obviously monitoring me very closely.

    [–]Vulptex 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    There's definitely something going on because I'm hard-banned from doing any of that.

    [–]bootylicious 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    He's not asking about dreaming. Meditation is an excellent practice for mental health. What happens in dreams is uncontrolled, unrelated and rarely remembered.

    [–]jet199 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Out of body experiences happen a lot to people experiencing traumatic events as well.

    They will look down on the thing happening to them from above as though it was happening to someone else.