[Meta] Eric Ciaramella, alleged whistleblower in Ukrainegate's name getting censored everywhere. by DomitiusOfMassilia in KotakuInAction

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Thanks somercet

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I can't actually change it, but I can sticky this if you want.

YouTube Took Down Judicial Watch Impeachment Feed by dittendatt in KotakuInAction

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They don't want anyone competing with corporate media coverage. Including Fox News' coverage.

Reddit admins supposedly removed this picture quoting Omar from thedonald by DomitiusOfMassilia in KotakuInAction

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No idea.

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I personally, don't know.

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This had to be removed from the our Reddit sub, so I've chosen to post i here instead.

According to WatchRedditDie, this was removed for "violent speech"

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Comment Reported for: is this something that saidit is gonna allow now? are we the nazi safe haven?

Only the hottest of takes, eh Carmen?

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Yes, but have you seen that behavior removed here?

Announcing the winners of Saidit's first CSS contest! by magnora7 in SaidIt

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I'm definitely going to have to check these out and eventually submit ours.

I'm definitely a fan of Ice Poseidon 2's design.

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And some of the "funny subs" of reddit are not very possible under the values of Saidit, but that's solely my own problem.

I'm really starting to think that I should get an admin in here to do an AMA.

Which subs are you referring to?

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I see it as a kind of preference or values statement.

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Correct.

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Okay.

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This site? It's probably going to be okay.

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No problem. I forgot that you commented it.

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Correct.

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What's most disturbing to me is that they are tripping over themselves to comply.

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Give it a feel, go and explore!

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I'm glad this is a sub.

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I thought Twitter was going to allow it? Did they change?

[Meta] Eric Ciaramella, alleged whistleblower in Ukrainegate's name getting censored everywhere. by DomitiusOfMassilia in KotakuInAction

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It's definitely bizarre to watch. I can feel the irony in the fact that I was reading this a few days ago thinking, "Well, at least it isn't happening here."

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There is another: https://poal.co/s/KotakuInAction/hot

But it is significantly more spicy at first.

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Well, I wouldn't stop you if you made your own, and I'd be fine letting you advertise it.

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No problem.

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I don't actually agree with this. I don't think that the admins are pushing very hard, but I get the concern. I don't believe that this place will effectively shut down fun, though it might be worth trying to get an AMA with the admins here.

That being said, I've got another alternative if you want to check it out too. But it is a bit more edgy. https://poal.co/s/KotakuInAction/hot

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Well, first of all it's not the Jews.

Secondly, I crafted a summary on reddit which I think works.

Oh jeez.

I'm going to try and sum this up as simply as I can in only a few sentences.

The Obama administration is effectively responsible for the Ukrainian Revolution, and used NGO's to control the government by creating a puppet state. A lot of left-wing organizations and politicians were making money, and also laundering money in Ukraine, knowing that it's puppet government couldn't effectively harm them. Elements within the Ukranian government did attempt to investigate these ties, but were removed by political pressure from the US.

When it became clear that Donald Trump was closing in on potentially being competitive, or even wining the election, Democratic Party operatives in the CIA, FBI, National Security Council, Democratic National Committee (likely with support from Biden, Obama, and Clinton), all worked together to drum up damaging information on Trump, his staff, and his campaign, regardless of whether or not the information was legitimate. This culminated in the Russia Probe, the arrest of Paul Manafort, and the wire-tapping of Trump Tower.

The Ukrainian government changed hands so that it was no longer a puppet state to Democratic officials, and Trump suggested that he would appreciate seeing the shut down corruption investigations re-opened. In order to cover their tracks, the Dems basically claimed that Trump was ordering the Ukranians to investigate Biden to dig up dirt on him for the 2020 campaign.

These two timelines can walk you through all that:

https://youtu.be/kuvfYE7ZdL0?t=2001

https://johnsolomonreports.com/the-ukraine-scandal-timeline-democrats-and-their-media-allies-dont-want-america-to-see/

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YOU SON OF A BITCH

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I was more wondering why the powers-that-be were going apeshit over this, especially with the outlets you listed on KiA2 who have released the name

My hypothesis is that Mark Zaid, the whistleblower's attorney, is probably sending out threatening letters to corporations that publish Eric's information. Add that Schiff and others are (falsely) claiming that reproducing the whistleblower's name opens corporations up to legal liability, and may violate the law.

Being that this confirms their biases, they will fold quickly under pressure.

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RIGHT HERE MOTHERFUCKER

WOOF WOOF

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True, stuff has to rise to the top instead of being pushed down.

Mod pl0x! by david-me in KotakuInAction

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Go home haterjuiced, you're drunk.

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massilia pilled

The best pill!

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It seems to be down. Genuinely, you might be able to contact the admins and ask about it, or post on the main page.

If we really want, I (or even you) could make an IRC chat, they're not super difficult.

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Yes, KiA here. I'm hoping to help breakdown a bit of the echo-chambery nature at least a little bit.

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WEEEEEEEE

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They don't believe in downvoting I guess. Meh. I'm actually okay with the idea because I think all concepts have some value for someone. Downvoting does technically hide that.

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1) Wider by a lot. I don't have official rules set up here, but suffice it to say, don't be surprised if you get shocked by something offensive over the coming week or so. The biggest restriction is that the site does not allow porn, nor copyright violating material. My advice would be to, for the moment, think of it as Reddit, but with less stupid harassment rules.

2) Ciaramella is a problem generally because many people believed that he was a lynch-pin in fostering collusion between the FBI, the CIA, the DNC, Obama's National Security Council, and a Ukrainian "Anti-Corruption" organization that was directly tasked with fabricating the Steele Dossier, and trying to destroy Paul Manafort in order to collapse the Trump campaign in 2016. He was previously released from the CIA for leaking information to the press, was later re-hired along with policy changes that suggest to some people he was hired explicitly for the purposes of leaking information. He was in contact with Adam Schiff before he filed his complaint.

Basically, the dude is absolutely dirty, and could implicate a huge number of people.

The problem that most people are having with the coverage of the whistleblower is that he is a public figure who has been identified by Politico, The New York Times, and RealClear Investigations and a whole host of other journalists and media organizations. The largest left-wing media organizations (MSNBC, CNN, CBS, ABC, WaPo, Salon, Slate, etc) have all worked together to entirely remove any mention of his name in public to "protect his identity" although his name has already been publicly released. The mainstream media is intentionally suppressing news stories. That's what people are upset about.

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I genuinely do not know.

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These are all good reasons.

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There is no re-design.

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breathes in mechanically KiA Prime's failure is complete.

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Because Snowden upset the journalist's friends in the intelligence community.

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Correct.

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4) There are four lights!

In a dishonest world, telling the truth is a radical act.

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In life, you go iron man mode, or you die.

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They're banning porn subs without warning or explanation. Subs with over 75k subscribers. They're trying to become Hail Corporate: the website.

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Will the last person to leave Reddit please remember to turn off both cameras?

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I think we could still get 25% - 50%. We'd basically have a run of the site if we had all 10,000 people open accounts.

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It also has a mobile app and an IRC chat for each sub!

At least, it had one.

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The other mods and I have been discussing it for quite some time, how to best approach it all.

One suggestion I came up with was to turn Reddit into a "best of" sub. Locked from public submissions, but I just upload the top 5 daily posts over here, over there.

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This post was removed by me a few moments ago.

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This post was removed by me a few moments ago in accordance with Reddit's harassment policy for retards.

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Building connections with people in positions of power with other subs.

Maybe offering them lifeboats.

Saidit is back online after a few days of attacks by magnora7 in SaidIt

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Yeah, but what the hell is he saying, I can't read that shit!

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That's going to have to be up to the community.

Frankly, I suspect that our primary objective will be to build outside of the tech-bubble. Why fuck around with advertisers who hate us, when we can build our own shit?

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For what?

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Part of it is definitely that it is an alternative people don't know about. Which is why I want to have a major, consolidated, move. Not a slow trickle over by people who are frustrated.

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It could happen to all of them.

To be honest, if we move here or there, we'd push the userbase to the left. Also we'd be like, more than 50% of the subscriber base. Weirdly enough, a collective action would probably be a huge boost to them.

My only concern is mobile. I don't know how it works on either site.

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It's got an interesting point system that's a lot more public facing.

The problem is that it's even smaller than Saidit, and it's ... ahem... significantly more to the right. Not as far right as Voat... but still.

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We still don't know if the users want to all come here yet.

This is what I mean by "prepping the beach head".

I have a header now....

But still, the users might want to use Tribes, or Minds, or Gab, or Poal, or something else. If I have a basic bitch implementation of our sub at these places, the users will be able to more adequately decide if it has the right kind of feel, and if the size and outside community is to our liking.

I still want to build a little something on Poal because it's user highlight system may be useful, although this place is a pretty good replacement for reddit.

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The site is a little slower to respond than I'm used to, but I'm getting the hang of importing our stylesheet.

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I'm playing around with Tribes and Poal.co too.

I actually kind of like Poal a little bit, but we'll have to see.

What's up my free speech people? by idkwhatimseeking in WatchRedditDie

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I'm exploring all my options.