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[–]MisterPedo 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (15 children)

i prayed with muslims(wahabis) for a minute, and i promise you that they will not be happy until each and every jew is dead and buried, and if they tell you anything else they are lying to you.

i dont get paid enough to lie to any person.

that, my dear friends, is the real bottom line here.

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    [–]Abcdonk 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

    And exactly why are you so sure of that?

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      [–]Abcdonk 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

      I'm sure that that is quite comforting to the children and the ladies that were kidnapped and murdered about a week ago in Israel and I'm sure it's very comforting to the Jewish lady that just got murdered in Detroit.

      https://youtu.be/zfXBNQMj2SE?si=4IOoXpxGR1MJ0G9o

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        [–]Abcdonk 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

        To people that were murdered you want me to mention something to them? How can I do that considering that they're now dead?

        As every day passes I am more and more looking forward to visiting with Israeli intelligence.

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          [–]Abcdonk 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

          Children died over the last few weeks, they were murdered, and you somehow think this is a debate.

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            [–]jet199Instigatrix 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

            [–]cunninglingus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

            In the UK, that Islamic Centre should (and could) lose its charity status for hosting this talk. The speaker is obviously an extremist who is causing more difficulties for the Palestinians by making this false claim about the Qu'ran, which should not be used in this extremist manner. That speaker violates other portions of the Qu'ran. Israel's attrocities (4741+ innocents murdered as of today) will of course inspire extremists to incite violence, whereas 99.99% want peace, not continued violence. It's highly unlikely that the Hamas attack on civilians was desired by 99% of Palestinians. Indeed, it was possible because of Netanyahu's IDF and Mossad allowed for lax security in an area they knew was dangerous and likely had significant weapons, something that most Israeli's are angry about. Here's a response to extremists who are misinterpreting the Qu'ran:

            Maha Rizma

            Ph.D. in Molecular BiotechnologyAuthor has 1.1K answers and 10.7M answer viewsUpdated Feb 11 Related

            How do modern Muslims respond to the Koran instructions to "kill the infidel?" Are some murderers?

            Muslims don't read 1 phrase of Quran popularized by media again and again to implant it in mind of people. They read the whole Quran and summarizes as below:

            BE KIND TO THE INFEDALS who don’t fight a religious war against you. God loves those who act equitably. (Quran 60:8).

            Every human on earth is descendants of Adam. By this, they can demand rights to each other, that must have to be fulfilled. If you don't fulfill that, God is watching. (Quran 4:1)

            “Killing an innocent is equivalent of killing whole mankind”-this was an universal truth being set from the time of Adam, which was revealed in Torah (Quran 5:32), then confirmed in Gospel (Quran 5:46) and then in Quran (Quran 5:48). A Muslim killing an innocent soul will have DOUBLE PUNISHMENT in hell (Quran 25:69).

            If anyone injures you first, you can return it to establish justice. But if you forgive, God will reward you. (42:40)

            You can fight back, if they attack first. (2:190, 2:194, 9:13)

            Or you can fight, if they break treaty first. (9:8, 9:10, 9:12, 9:13)

            But you can never break treaty first, from your side (9:4, 9:7)

            If they cease, you must cease. (2:192–2:193).

            If they offer peace, you give similar or better peace offer. (Quran 4:86)

            If they seek protection, give them protection and transfer them to safe place. (9:6)

            MOREOVER, Muslims understands that what is an INSTRUCTION and what is a HISTORIC EVENT.

            If they find, God telling to Noah pbuh (and his people) to make a boat (Quran 23:27), Muslims don't start making boat. They understand that it was an instruction to a prophet and his people, in one time point of history.

            If they find, God telling to Moses pbuh (and his people) to enter Jerusalem prostrating (Quran 4:154), Muslims don't start entering Jerusalem prostrating. They understand that it was an instruction to a prophet and his people, in one time point of history.

            If they find, God telling to Muhammad pbuh to attack Meccan (chapter 9) who drove away them from Mecca to Medina, then flew to Medina several times to keep attacking them, then made a peace treaty and finally broke it, Muslims don't start killing infedals around them. They understand that it was an instruction to a prophet and his people, in one time point of history. source

            [–]jet199Instigatrix 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

            [–]cunninglingus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            At the end of the sermon, he prayed for a Hamas victory.

            That bit's not recorded. A search for "Lewisham Islamic Centre pray for hamas victory" locates nothing. Hence it's likely that this post is disinformation.

            [–]cunninglingus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            That's not the bottom line. You met extremist assholes who are not representative of 99% of Muslims.