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[–]BobOki 10 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 3 fun -  (20 children)

I do not, and lemme 'splain. I have talked at length to multiple people in the OG trannie community and they all said the same thing point blank. Trannie used to be a sexuality, a fetish, NOT an ideology. As a matter of fact, and you can verify this quickly growing trend, the LGBT community, that's right, only those 4 letters, is tired of these young millennials and gen-z INSANE people who have co-oped their community and completely ruined it, discredited it, and rolled back their progress 15 years. They are starting in droves to kick out all the other letters, and anyone who thinks anything in that community is anything more than sexuality, NOT IDEOLOGY. And frankly, I could not be happier about it.

They have all said the same thing, these communities were started to be able to be around people with your same likes and kinks, while also fighting for equality for those people. Fighting for equality is INCLUSIONARY. What these ideological people are doing is EXCLUSIONARY, they are trying to force others to lose their rights, force them to speak how they want, force them to be silent when they do not like what they say, force them to go to the back of the bus while they get to be in front, and they want to become the oppressor. LGBT community and the black community have long fought against oppressors, so it is QUITE the slap to the face of all OG members of both groups to see them be the very thing they fought so hard and long against.

What trash people, they have nothing of their own, cannot create anything of their own, are bankrupt of talent, care, emotions other than outrage and victimhood, and they know it so they have to steal existing things, and then DESTROY them in the name of their ideology. It is disgusting to see, even more so to be demonized by them for something we cannot control (sound familiar? Yeah LGBT and Black community said this SAME thing) no matter how much we support equality (not equity fuck you) and have worked to help achieve it. Shit, if people in their own community spoke out they would outright attack them and run them out of the community. Well, the ACTUAL community is fucking fed up with it and starting taking it back. They are older, wiser, and actually have money to do something about. This will be awesome to watch, grab some popcorn boys, and I really do hope as this pendulum swings back from all the CRAZY shit these ideological children have tried to force on people that once that pendulum swings as far back as it will go, that the REAL minority communities just looking for equality do not lose what they fought so hard to gain.

Anyone in those communities that is OG and gets what I am saying and I have been told, good luck, hope you retain your rights as you purge your trash.

[–]StillLessons 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Great comment.

It's not that people on the fringes should not exist. People on the fringes of society have existed for the entire history of humanity, and societies figure out better or worse ways of handling that.

What has so many of us so pissed off is the use of force to declare the fringe to be the mainstream and the resultant punishment of the traditional majority to mandate not just acceptance of but obedience to the fucked up thinking these people are expressing.

I have said for years this is a mental illness. I have great sympathy for those with mental illness. I want them to learn to be happy. But this crew doesn't want to learn to be happy among their peers. They want society to obey them. Their endpoint is that their fucked up thinking is the norm. No fucking way. I'm sorry they think in a way that makes them miserable and I wish them the best speed at figuring out how to escape that thinking. But enforcing their own fucked up ideology on to others is both radically stupid and radically evil. It's stupid because even if it works, the people working so hard to become the enforced ideological center are going to remain miserable. Guaranteed. Fighting reality will do that to you.

[–]Vulptex[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You're right about the mental illness part. But remember illness means illness, not a personal/character failing. A mentally ill person can't help it, and the self-help toxic positivity will only make them feel either attacked or like bad people.

[–]BobOki 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

As a bi-polar and ADHD person since the 80's, mental health is super close to my heart and I have worked hard online to try and get people to understand there is no difference between mental and physical health, they are both parts of your body and mostly are fixed the same way, meds, diet, and exercise.

You hit the nail on the head and said it better than I. When the 1-5% think they deserve to be treated not as just the majority, but ABOVE everyone else, special rights, pedestal because they are SOoOoOoo brave for faking they are a girl. Nearly as bad as the TikTok medical issue fakers... you know the autism, neurodivergent, multiple personalities, etc... because just like LGBT this is en vouge right now. We used to call that cosplay.... that's about it.

[–]Vulptex[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

I really do hope as this pendulum swings back from all the CRAZY shit these ideological children have tried to force on people that once that pendulum swings as far back as it will go, that the REAL minority communities just looking for equality do not lose what they fought so hard to gain

Hate to break it to you, but they already have. Just look at how many people in the past 2 years went from reasonable to obsessed with hating Jews, blacks, gays, trannies, and even women.

I am not a transvestite as far as I can tell. I'm tired of the gender movement forcing me to conflate two different things. I don't crossdress and I don't live by female gender roles. I never identified as female. Actually it would probably be easier to continue identifying as male so I don't have to change a whole bunch of things. For the longest time I've effectively hoped my sex would change but somehow no one would notice. If biological sex wasn't real, I wouldn't be whining about this right now. I was fortunate enough to not really get genital dysphoria and was able to live a mostly normal childhood, but this post-pubescent body isn't going to work. It feels like I'm trapped in a costume, and I'm really bad with sensory discomforts. I don't recognize myself in the mirror anymore either, but that's beside the point. I'm fine with the transvestites standing up for themselves and trying to win acceptance, but NOT at the expensive of people who suffer from a horrible tragic disease. People like me have been found to have certain genetic defects in common, we're not just drag queens. This is not a social construct. I am not interested in changing anything that doesn't come with me into the shower (and no, I'm not interested in boobs either).

[–]hfxB0oyA 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Have you looked into an autism diagnosis? Do you think anything in that might help with this disorder?

[–]Vulptex[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

No, because I've had that diagnosis for most of my life. Apparently it's hard to pick up on, but luckily one of my doctors has it himself and was able to catch it.

How could it help with this?

[–]hfxB0oyA 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Not sure. Your mention of sensory discomforts prompted my question. I guess I was wondering if the sex dysphoria (to crib the term you used elsewhere) might be thought of as an extension of the sensory problem, i.e, the persistent awareness of your twig n' berries might be the thing that's the core discomfort, and if there might be some autism based therapy strategies that could lead you to be less uncomfortable with your factory settings.

[–]Vulptex[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I think it definitely intensifies the problem, and maybe it's the reason it's significant at all. But that's not going to change. It can't be the cause, because I notice things being off even if they don't bother me, like my hands being too big. It's also quite the coincidence that all the bothersome features are sex differences.

[–]hfxB0oyA 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

That makes me wonder if you were able to lean into the awareness of these differences and go hyper masculine (working out, etc), if that would somehow result in you being happy with them. I understand that constitutes an enormous mental leap; not suggesting you can just mosey into that - this is just me speculating.

[–]Vulptex[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

That won't work. It would also make me more miserable because I'm not hyper-masculine.

It's not society.

[–]hfxB0oyA 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Crummy situation all around.

[–]iamonlyoneman 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Hard to pick up on? Nibba i picked up on it from ur internet shitposting style ur doctors all suck donkey dick

[–]Vulptex[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I'm much weirder online than in real life.

[–]Czavitsky 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

i seriously doubt that.. i believe that every thing that comes out of your mouth describes your psychological condition, which is not good.

[–]Vulptex[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I hide it very well. Part of the reason is too many people care about me way too much, and they can't handle even the thought that I might be like this. If I try to open up about it, there's hell to pay. They desperately compel me to shut up and "be positive".

[–]iamonlyoneman 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Your therpaist does not give a fuck about you as a person bb

[–]BobOki 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I agree with you, but not how you think. There is a huge difference, IMO, between a person wanting to transition fully to another sex, bottom/top surgery and all. That is 100% their right as long as they are an adult, and I think not a lot of people are actually against THAT. They need a new label for that, because we now label everything... another thing these communities fought against, because those people belong in a totally separate group. You have OG trannies that it is fetish/sexual, you have the ideological trash that feel like they are male or female per day with no other changes at all.... we call that cosplaying and I do NOT have to buy into your bullshit. Then the last would be people actually with gender dysmorphia and want to switch genders, and I am willing to bet most of those people did not just recently "decide" that fits them once this trend got fashionable, knew from early early childhood, even if they rejected it because of social reasons.

Once again, if you just get rid of ALL this ideological crap, the whole community will be better off, everyone else will support you more because who does not want equality when it is inclusionary and not ex, and that also used to help us easily see the bigots and racists and we could avoid them. Now ANYONE that does not 100% buy all in and bow in front of these people are alt-right, nazi, literally harmful people, when everyone BUT you is the problem, that usually means YOU are the problem.

Like I said, I really feel bad for ACTUAL LGBT people because you are front line trapped in between factually insane people, and the people that are tired of their bullying and abuse. Hope you find both peace and happiness.

[–]Vulptex[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm pretty sure I fall into the dysmorphia group. If anything the trans activists held me back, because all I saw was transvestites and confused kids. And that may very well have ruined my life, because I think 5-10 years ago people would've been willing to listen long enough for me explain the difference, whereas now they just have a knee-jerk reaction and immediately start calling hellfire down on you. And the worst part is, I can't even blame them for the most part.

[–]BobOki 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It is sad all around... but really bad players ruin anything that gets popular. Think of ANY trend or media that gets popular.. it is ruined shortly thereafter by bad actors and now ideological zealots. Disney has REALLY shown us just how toxic ideology is, but even more so, how much more in magnitudes the proponents of these ideologies are compared to the actual fandom. I have NEVER seen a more toxic, entitled, and delusional group than these guys. They come into a popular franchise to take it over, once again because they are bankrupt of any creativity of their own, and decide no matter the setting, time, history, or even REALITY, they want to replace all whites with other colors, unless they need a bad guy then it is white male, and all other males with females, even if they are black they tend to get race swapped. Evidently females, and on top black females, are the only competent beings in existence anymore, and that is so laughable I cannot even begin to take anyone who thinks this seriously. And this has been proven time and time and time and time and time again... shit man the WORLDS leading female soccer team got their asses HANDED to them by a fucking HIGH SCHOOL male team, full stop.

Anyways, there has always been a extremely small niche of people that were gender dysmorphic, and wanted to transition in that community, maybe 1%? So 1% of the 2-5% of the population is actually dysmorphic, so naturally every single narcist is falling over themselves to join this ultra special group of uber minorities so they can get top pity points, leaving the real 1% high, dry, and directionless. Their issues have now been boiled down to a popular choice that can change multiple times daily, hey man these guys solved it all for you! Your issues are no longer there because you can just SAY you are male or female as the wind blows, WHEEEE!

[–]TheMaharishi 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Everything that gets to a certain size. Becomes about money and power. When it reaches the critical mass. Where it becomes worth to pursue for a narcissistic psychopath. It doesn't matter if it's church, state, multinational corporations or charities. Everything over a certain size is controlled by these people.

Because holding a position at the top of these organizations. Comes with money, power and "bitches". Bitches is used loosely since for the pope this probably means 9 year old boys ;-)