Humans put a man on the moon before they put wheels on luggage.

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[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (12 children)

Humans faked a moon landing before inventing wheeled luggage.

[–]Musky[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Do you really believe that?

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

Sadly, yes...The probability of use of special effects, government lies and propaganda to fool the world and boost the ego of the US is far higher than actually succeeding with dumb luck in landing on the moon and safely returning back to Earth in a tin can with minimal understanding of the technology required to survive outside of our safe little rock.

[–]Musky[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

actually succeeding with dumb luck in landing on the moon and safely returning back to Earth in a tin can with minimal understanding of the technology required to survive outside of our safe little rock.

Are you familiar with the history? It's not like we just stuck people in a tin can and blasted them off in a rocket ship. There were a lot of intermediary baby steps from launching the first satellites to Project Mercury to Project Gemini to the Apollo missions. So many things had to happen, we had to learn before Apollo was possible.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, I am aware of the many explosions and Russian dogs, etc. I am also familiar with other American history, which is rife with coverups, false flags, and nonsense to inflate the reputation of 'le bestest country in duh world yeehaw'. I mean, to believe the moon landing, I'd also have to believe JFK died by accidentally driving into an innocent passing bullet, building 7 fell free fall because of a small fire, mk ultra was just a story made up by sci fi novelists and the Iraq war was riddled with weapons of mass destruction. Let's face it, the US government is the biggest bullshit artist on the planet and makes Syrian terrorists look sane and reputable.

[–]StillLessons 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

From ~1960 until ~1967, there was a remarkably poorly run program, culminating in the deaths of three astronauts on the launchpad. After that, the director of the program quit. You're suggesting that a massively dysfunctional huge organization created a complete fuckup for ~7 years, but then magically turned itself around, and over the next five years, put not one but several successful missions on to the lunar surface, including a fucking dune-buggy. After that, they then drop the whole program, with no missions since. Nah, I'll pass.

[–]LarrySwinger2 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They murdered them.

[–]LarrySwinger2 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They haven't solved traveling through the Van Allen belt or softening the landing on the return flight, which requires carrying so much fuel that the initial takeoff becomes unfeasible. In the attempts to visit Mars, you can see them ask for help with passing through the Van Allen belt. Why can't they use the solutions from the moon landing? Because it didn't happen.

When the astronauts came back from their supposed trip to the moon, they couldn't even remember if they saw stars in the sky even though they must've seen them everywhere. There are countless indications that the footage of the moon landing was faked.

[–]In-the-clouds 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

to fool the world and boost the ego of the US

That's it? That was the motive? Is that the best motive you can come up with?

But I can think of a motive for the opposite: They want us to believe that man's space abilities are all a hoax so that when the alien deception begins (hasn't it already started?), they will never suspect the men that worked on the worldwide lie.

For reference, look at how COVID was rolled out and blamed on a bat in a Chinese wet market. *They wanted you to believe that instead of realizing you were being lied to and that it was men that created and released the disease, the same men that created the injections and tests given worldwide.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

They wanted people to believe a bat in a wet market spread a virus instead of the leak at the gain of function research lab nearby. It's just another instance of rewriting history and making people believe anything they are told.

[–]In-the-clouds 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You seem to agree that it was humans that created COVID, and it was not created by a non-human (bat). It could be the same with the alien agenda. They don't want you to believe humans could create a lie so big, working together with the fallen angels. They want you to believe the aliens (not humans) are doing what they say they are doing. The goal: get the world to reject Jesus and fear the fallen angels and worship the antichrist.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Jebus should be rejected, it's a silly story.

[–]jet199Instigatrix 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

There were suitcases with wheels before that.

What changed is that women started carrying suitcases so they wanted to wheel them along at the time.

[–]Musky[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Looks like you're right. Title should more accurately read Humans put a man on the moon before wheels on luggage became popular. That doesn't sound as impressive tho.

Early patents for a wheeled trunk and a wheeled suitcase came in 1887 and 1945, respectively, and a design for a "portable porter", a wheeled device that could be attached to a suitcase, was advertised in British newspapers in the 1940s. However, none of these designs originally caught on. During her second world tour in 1928, American artist Anita Willets-Burnham made the first recorded wheeled suitcase, which had two baby carriage wheels attached to it and a telescoping wooden handle.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suitcase

[–]jet199Instigatrix 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Or "Humans put a man on the moon before women started carrying all the shit they bought."

[–]LarrySwinger2 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You're right. Looks like the title contains two falsehoods.

[–]jet199Instigatrix 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Funnily enough, yesterday I talked past a man and a woman each with the same suitcase and the woman was wheeling hers but the man was carrying it by the handle even though he didn't have to. So I realised there was a sex aspect to it I didn't think about before. Indeed when I meet up with my dad he always insists on carrying my suitcase no matter what I say and even though it has wheels.

[–]LarrySwinger2 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Allegedly.

[–]In-the-clouds 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

They were not always successful. The Apollo 1 ended in disaster.

Edit: It's strange that people want us to believe the successful missions were faked, but they don't say anything about the disasters. Why don't they say all of the other work that goes into the space program is fake, too?

[–]Musky[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Edit: It's strange that people want us to believe the successful missions were faked, but they don't say anything about the disasters. Why don't they say all of the other work that goes into the space program is fake, too?

The code for the Apollo Guidance Computer is even available online. If it was fake why would that even exist.

[–]In-the-clouds 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I tried to look at the code. It didn't make sense to me, but it is clear that much work has gone into the space programs with so much detail. I see no compelling motive to fake it.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Something something Russia 🙄

[–]StillLessons 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

They were attempting to do it. I have no problem with that. They intended to go to the moon. It was in fact the disaster in 1967 which I believe convinced them they were done. At that point, however, rather than admit defeat, they decided to use the simulators (which were of course a necessary training tool assuming they had gone) and to pass them off as the real thing. Magic! We went to the moon!

But if they had truly gone to the moon, the program would have continued, expanded, and grown from there. There is no such thing as a government program that allows itself to go extinct if they don't have to. They had to go extinct because they never had what they said they did, and the fact they got away with what they did is miraculous enough. They were smart to cut their losses in the end.

[–]In-the-clouds 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Thousands of objects are launched into space every year, so it is very much a busy enterprise. Tell me, what would the motive be to fake a mission to the moon? No one has ever given me a compelling reason. Usually the answer is about ego or to make the United States look powerful. But what's the point of that, at the risk of being caught in a lie? And if that were the motive, why doesn't the US make sure to publicize all the moon landings, or make a new holiday like they did for MLK Jr, except to celebrate a moon landing? The US government seems to have no interest in publicizing the space program. We really don't know what they do up there, including at the International Space Station. The motive given for fake moon missions doesn't make sense.

[–]StillLessons 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Read what I wrote again. They did not intend to fake the missions. They intended to go the moon. I'm not arguing that.

The motivation for what happened, then, was not based on an original motivation to fake moon landings. Instead, it was a classic bureaucratic CYA on the grandest scale when they realized they were in deep shit and weren't going to be able to deliver the goods. The thing about the western cabal - ever since WWI - is that they are radically incapable of admitting defeat. By far the most important thing to our overlords is the impression of inevitability of their "progress". There is no stronger sensation for them. They MUST appear always to be making progress. If they are seen to be defeated and to have to retreat, the entire ethos of "western progress and civilization" is threatened. That is existentially terrifying for them.

This is currently important when you look at what's going on as we have this exchange. They are now in the same position in Ukraine. They are once again in deep shit, because they promised "Russia is going to fall! We are going to bring our enlightened leadership to Russia, and progress will continue!" They don't say it in these words, but this is the message being sent. Now they are in another "Oh, shit!" moment where Russia turns out to be strong enough that the "imperial progress" they are promising looks out of reach. But just like the moon landings, they are foundationally incapable of admitting defeat. Having people incapable of admitting defeat locked in a war they are losing with a nuclear-armed foe in eurasia is a very dangerous combination.

These people are the dictionary definition of hubris. Destroy their image, and they themselves fear existential destruction. That is the motivation for lies of this magnitude.

[–]In-the-clouds 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

To summarize all of what you wrote, you say the motive is, like the others say: ego. I don't believe it. If it were ego, they would publicize their "accomplishments" so they could receive public praise.

when they realized they were in deep shit and weren't going to be able to deliver the goods.

Deliver what goods? They didn't provide anything to the American public for the moon missions. And did they fake every moon mission? They said a total of 12 men walked on the moon. The media coverage was poor and the American public seemed bored. The public would not have chastised the government for quitting the moon program if they were unable to carry it out. Even today, most Americans don't care about the current space program, and know so little about it. But they will sure be told all about the aliens and UFOs. You watch. It will be constant coverage, like was given to COVID. Do not be deceived.

[–]StillLessons 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

To summarize all of what you wrote, you say the motive is, like the others say: ego. I don't believe it.

We're going to disagree on this one. The word "ego" is an oversimplification of the effect I'm talking about. Kennedy, when he started this project, made a categorical declaration: We're going to the moon within 10 years. He staked the reputation of the U.S. government and political economy on that statement. It's not about the ego of the men involved. They created the dynamic that if the government didn't accomplish what was laid out, it was a categorical failure. The blow to the prestige of the U.S. in that environment should not be dismissed. Remember, they were getting their asses quite kicked in southeast Asia at the time as well. They viewed this not as their personal failure, but as the failure of the country's technological capacity to do what they set themselves to doing. In their minds, the myth of American greatness was threatened. Empires cannot continue to grow if the world does not see them as the most powerful group on the block, and the United States has been an empire since WWII (longer actually, but post WWII, it's quite explicit). It's this kind of belief structure which leads people to decisions like the ones this group of people took.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

We lost the former technology and cannot go back.

[–]Musky[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, we had to recreate or reinvent a whole lot of stuff, it's a shame, but I don't believe it's insurmountable.