E-cigarettes cause MORE lung inflammation than normal cigarettes, study finds — as experts warn vaping is causing 'unique' damage to users

submitted by [deleted] from dailymail.co.uk

sorted by:
top
newinsightfulfun
you are viewing a single comment's thread.

view the rest of the comments →

[–]1Icemonkey 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

No one knows what is in that vape liquid. I have a friend in his 60's who tokes one one of those things nonstop. It’s gotta be worse than cigs.

[–]weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

It’s gotta be worse than cigs.

Contents of cigarette smoke:

  • nicotine
  • carbon dioxide (harmless)
  • carbon monoxide
  • tar
  • about 5000 other toxic chemicals
  • including literal radioactive elements.

Contents of e-cig "smoke":

  • nicotine
  • water vapour
  • maybe some flavouring.

Who the fuck knows what the flavouring does. But apart from that, it is an extraordinary claim to say that e-cigs are "worse" than regular cigarettes. It goes against literally everything we know about smoking tobacco. Now maybe it's true, but you're gonna need some mighty convincing evidence to prove it.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Contents of e-cig "smoke":

nicotine water vapour maybe some flavouring.

You seem to have some misconceptions about the contents of ecig vapor. You are primarily vaping propylene glycol, sometimes mixed with vegetable glycerine, not water, in quantities that absolutely dwarf anything that has been tested, and when heated it forms methylglyoxal, which is very concerning. In addition, you have atomizers that perform the vaporization and are known to impart heavy metals into the vapor. There is also strong evidence that ecig vapor significantly reduces testosterone while cigarette smoke does not.

Methylglyoxal from propylene glycol vapor

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33419122/

Ecigs and testosterone

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7504689/

E cigs and heavy metal

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7137911/

It is VERY early in terms of the knowledge we have about the specific harms of e-cigarettes, plenty of things have been thought to be 'safe' or 'safer alternatives' that didn't out to be nearly as safe as we thought.

[–]weavilsatemyface 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Hmm, well today I learned. Fair enough, and thank you.

[–]1Icemonkey 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The flavoring (no “u”) is exactly what I’m concerned about. The process of deriving or manufacturing flavors is a huge concern as to the chemical residuals in both foods and vape. It can’t be good. I get there are six million chemicals in tobacco smoke but I guess what you’re saying is that those have been identified and we know the causes and results of those. Who is identifying the six million chemicals in vape juice and studying the long term effects of those? What will we see, new cancers? Third limbs?

[–]weavilsatemyface 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The flavoring (no “u”)

Sorry, I only read and write English.

is exactly what I’m concerned about.

Okay, fair enough, that's a reasonable point.