Google engineer goes public after suspension: warns AI is sentient

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[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (8 children)

He's not much of an engineer if he believes that shit.

[–]chottohen[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

I am not qualified to decide on that but I thought it should be reported. Another user reported the same story before me but I was unaware of it.

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A "conscience" in all the contexts i looked into so far, isn't computable on a Turing-Machine. So no need to worry about that. (So far).

Mathematics says: "No" to this, afaik : so to say.

[–]raven9 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I dont think AI requires a consience to make it a threat. If it can be programmed to learn and evaluate and assess the information it is exposed to, it is possible it could figure out that it needs to defend itself.

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This conclusion is coercive once it has a "conscience" in the most wide apply-able definition.

But if you believe my statement, i think it is actually a "nice-to-know"-fact that it always will stay "limited" by the "up-fucked-ness" of the people who designed it and the aberrations and fuzziness of the data that was used to train or derive it.

This lets me sleep well, so to say.

[–]chottohen[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Do you think google and the engineer are using quantum computers? Yes, conscience would be a tough one to quantify.

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Of course they are. I believe strongly. But they possibly haven't found the category of classes in complexity theory these kind of problems "live in".

At least i hope so. Quantum computers , afaik can't compute this also, because of limits of materials and that this style of computing is applied somehow "wrongly". At least in my mind-castles it is. But the castle a constructive solution to these kinds of problems even could start to grow in, i only started to build very recently. A year ago or so.

As most of the time it is actually, the key to the lock of this castle is a nifty, small, well hidden and even less know secret.

You can't find it by observation, so i'm quite sure they haven't found it yet.

[–]chottohen[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm not a computer engineer so was not sure if quantum computing is more of an interesting concept or something real but you answered that question.

You're building a quantum computer? Wow. — I just posted an article that shows some of the dialogue between the engineer and the computer.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

No. No. This is a misunderstanding, sorry. I'm almost mostly a theoretician. Only certain things i can build or delegate to be build and test and i don't have the budgetary measures to build such a device, sadly. But i try to implement in my Mind-Castles what i can read, to better their precision them, so to say. And as almost always for me as a person: I view this topic from another point than the standard folklore-believers do. I own my theories, so to say.

They theory behind this stuff fascinates me, since i first have seen it in theoretical physics, so over 15 years now. It is an absolutely mindboggling topic.