Biden Administration Raised Amount of Ethanol Required in Gasoline from 10% to 15%, Three Predictable Problems Will Surface Soon - The Last Refuge

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[–]Dunwidit 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (9 children)

Wow. I'll just leave you with this... Where is it used exclusively biodiesel... Our experiencing increased cancer rates. You know from aerosolizing the glyphosine that they spray the corn with... But you go ahead and breathe deep my friend. Not even getting into the Weeds about the amount of energy it takes to produce ethanol it's not a good trade but whatever....

[–]sampleusername 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

So you're saying that shipping heavy crude from the Arctic circle, Venezuela, and Iraq is somehow cleaner? Burning diesel to send crude halfway across the globe versus transporting grain to distilleries that are often located within tens of miles from the farms?

I should remind you that heavy crude is not a renewable resource. We have to continually drill deeper and further away to meet demand, and there will be a point where all wells stop producing. A smart person would start planning to replace heavy crude with whatever else is available in excess, and right now that happens to be grain. There is no avoiding the collapse of oil infrastructure, so you better get used to the alternatives.

[–]Dunwidit 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

And there's a lot of evidence supporting the crude is a renewable resource..(but when you're manufacturing scarcity you don't want to admit to that) old Wells All over Texas are refilling themselves.... But that's none of my business.

[–]Dunwidit 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Okay I can see how this is going to go. Please repost from my statement where I said we should be shipping crude from other countries or other latitudes whatever in grossly polluting super tankers... I realize I'm old so maybe I forgot that I said that so please show me where I said that. No? I worked in the oil fields for 10 years... Our standard for environmental protection exceed those of any place else in the world. We have like the third largest liquid petroleum deposits in the world... And unbelievable amounts of crude... We don't have to bring energy from anywhere. Sorry if statement somehow contradicts what you thought you read in my earlier statement... Or maybe you can put down the crack pipe and practice a little reading comprehension.

[–]sampleusername 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It's not you that says that heavy crude needs to be shipped in, it's the refineries and the oil companies that are saying it. The U.S. is not equipped to refine all of the light crude that comes from the Permian basin, so it gets sent overseas in exchange for heavy crude that can be used. This is common knowledge in the oil world, yet you act as if you know better?

It's completely irrelevant to this discussion that you have experience in oil fields. Crude oil doesn't go in your gas tank, you need refineries to turn it into gasoline and diesel. And with global supply chain disruptions it's more difficult to source the heavy crude that refineries need, and the price at the pump goes up. Why is this so hard to grasp?

[–]Dunwidit 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Cuz I worked in North Dakota... And well I don't work at a refinery my understanding is that sweet crude from there was very easy to refine. Not sure where you're getting your information. And I can concede that I may be undereducated in this regard. But 10 years working oil fields in North Dakota I never once heard that there was any issue refining that oil... In fact it's the oil that everybody wanted. Couldn't get it out of the ground fast enough.

[–]Dunwidit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So based on what you said I went and looked it up. Sweet crude or light crude is easier to refine cause less damage to refineries etc etc so you're completely wrong. We absolutely should not be bringing heavy crude in from elsewhere... Not just for economic reasons but apparently it's the less desirable of The crude oil... Your assertion is actually 100% backwards.

[–]Dunwidit 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

And I would make one more point as long as we're talking about alternatives. Helium 3 is the golden grail of fusion technology. There's almost none of it here on Earth because we have a magnetic field that directs it away. The moon on the other hand.... Absolutely littered with helium 3. 3 day trip... 6 day round trip. Robots could skim the surface separate out the helium 3 since it's low gravity and no atmosphere it'd be easy to get it off the surface and send it back here.... But we don't... We don't even talk about it. And it's literally right there.

[–]monkeymagic 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

and that doesn’t make you question the validity of the planet’s “space programs”?

ok lol

[–]Dunwidit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It does make me question our space (balloon?)program... If you want to have the prison planet discussion I'm all up for it. And I'll challenge you to show one shred of proof that this isn't already hell.