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[–]Kuasocto 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Sex is just as complicated as humans are. What seems a rather straightforward concept—with an unequivocal answer to the proverbial delivery room question, “Is it a boy or a girl?”—is in reality full of nuances and complexities, just like any human trait. From a biological standpoint, the appearance of the external genitalia is only one parameter among many, including chromosomal constitution, the sequence of sex-determining genes, gonadal structure, the profile of gonadal hormones, and the internal reproductive structures.

This last quote is really misleading as it doesn't mention that in over 98% of cases everything is simple and straightforward. There's less than 2% of people where you'd genuinely have to double check and think a little, but again, that's a tiny fraction of the population, and still, lots of those people ARE men or women, just a bit atypical.

[–]wristaction 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

First socks says "and why should anyone take you seriously?" as if he sits on a throne of stacks of social credit.

But then you explain that babies born with DSDs are infertile and he comes back with "NO THERE ARE ELEVEN".

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Many in the US get corrective surgery, whereas others in other countries rarely have the surery. Even if 2/100 people are born with some form of interesex condition, that's still approximately 160 million peoble in 8 billion. The common estimte is 1.7%, here. That number reduces our global estimate to 136 million intersex people. A judge would get advice on these matters, rather than claim to know any of this. The legal requirement in this case is to look after that 1.7% of the population by supporting the appropriate laws for them.

[–]jet199Instigatrix 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Those numbers are nonsense and include conditions most people wouldn't consider intersex at all.

Clearly 2% of people are not being born intersex. Try applying your common sense to this sometimes. If that were the case you'd personally know a large number of intersex people. They are in fact very rare.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

OK - Jet - let's say that I wish to refute Amnesty International's, and the United Nations' number (below), can I mention that you are my source? (Even if the number is less than 1.7%, that's still a significant number of people with intersex traits.) No need for insults about 'common sense', as I've merely linked to the research. Moreover, people don't advertise that they were born with intersex traits. For example, Jamie Lee Curtis supposedly has Testicular Feminisation Syndrome, but doesn't discuss it (not that I know of). And if you go to major cities in India, there is a good chance that you will see a kinnar (hijra) if you are outside long enough, or if you are near a wedding. Some of them go to weddings to ask for money, because their blessings are supposed to be good luck. And if no money is given, they curse the wedding and cause a scene.

https://www.ohchr.org/en/sexual-orientation-and-gender-identity/intersex-people