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[–]radicalcentrist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (139 children)

This is not a pandemic.

Entire businesses, schools, public transit, the Olympics and even vital meat processing plants have all been shut down or disrupted because of Covid outbreaks.

Of course it's a fucking pandemic. You never saw any of this stuff before 2020.

[–][deleted] 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (44 children)

The closures werent caused by covid they were caused by government. Over half of the people who got covid never even knew they had it. Such a massive pandemic that the walmart never closed but fuck you if you're a mom and pop store YOU have to close and lose everything because the waltons need a 10th yacht.

[–]radicalcentrist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (43 children)

The government already operates most of those public facilities I mentioned, so having to shut them down when it loses them money doesn't make sense if there wasn't a deadly virus going around.

The most egregious example being the Olympics. Japan was forced to delay the games by a year, and even today, they still wont make their money back since spectators are banned.

Such a massive pandemic that the walmart never closed but fuck you if you're a mom and pop store YOU have to close and lose everything because the waltons need a 10th yacht.

Walmart was still affected. Even though it's true stores did not close completely, they were still forced to implement indoor customer limits, as well as ban the sale of non-essential items.

Also consider the size and scale of a Walmart vs Mom & Pop store. Walmart has wider aisles and better ventilation systems, although I would support taxing Walmart more and sharing the revenue with other hard hit businesses.

[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (42 children)

Walmart was hurt lololol. Spare me.

As to the gov stuff you spouted above that. Governments dont make money. They spend it. The money they spend is the citizens money. The only time people in government care about losing money is when it comes to their paycheck and none of them lost a dime im the closures. If they couldnt work they were given supplemental pay.

[–]Jesus 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Governments are fake. The US is a corporation called United States Inc chartered by Congress LLC which was chartered by Association Inc.; not that anyone reads a book. National and state Governments are incorporated.

In addition, US inc is a self-funding quasi public-private corporation so it cannot be in debt to itself but for some idiotic reason congress llc allows US inc to borrow from private scumbag bankers to issue bank credits w/ interest.

The money they soend is NOT the citizens money. Who tood you that? It's their money. Now, what they do do is grift for money and congress is basically a racketeering agency for private corporate interests.

[–]radicalcentrist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (40 children)

Read my post again. I'm not actually defending Walmart, but there's more nuance involved as to why they didn't shutter their doors.

They still sold essential items like food, which everyone needs to survive. And given how much bigger their stores are, it was possible to social distance. But they should have been heavily taxed or banned from selling non-essential items like video games.

As to the gov stuff you spouted above that. Governments dont make money. They spend it. The money they spend is the citizens money. The only time people in government care about losing money is when it comes to their paycheck and none of them lost a dime im the closures. If they couldnt work they were given supplemental pay.

That doesn't explain the many layoffs of public servants who depended on those services. Like bus drivers having their hours reduced or cut entirely.

[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (15 children)

Or maybe instead of ruining the lives of millions we could have isolated the vulnerable and gone on with our lives. Like the barrington accord suggested. Not all wallmarts sell food either. Also per CDC data more people in the US died from lack of access to healthcare during the lockdowns than from covid. So the lockdowns made things worse not better.

[–]radicalcentrist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

Or maybe instead of ruining the lives of millions we could have isolated the vulnerable and gone on with our lives

We had a chance to prepare, but too many idiots felt it was more important to infect as many people as possible, instead of avoiding social gatherings. That's where the fault lies. Every passenger who came back from China had a responsibility to quarantine for two weeks. They refused because they were either ignorant or an asshole.

Also per CDC data more people in the US died from lack of access to healthcare during the lockdowns than from covid. So the lockdowns made things worse not better.

That's not the fault of lockdowns. People were going to die simply because Hospitals were overcrowding with dead bodies. That's how bad the situation was when we let Covid get out of control.

[–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

too many idiots felt it was more important to infect as many people as possible, instead of avoiding social gatherings

/u/radicalcentrist is a conformist corporate media talking points repeater.

That's not the fault of lockdowns. People were going to die simply because Hospitals were overcrowding with dead bodies. That's how bad the situation was when we let Covid get out of control.

100% propaganda bullshit.

[–]radicalcentrist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Lifting Covid restrictions early never worked. They always ended in failure.

India was the last big example. They did it before everyone was vaccinated, and the result was crematoriums working overtime 24/7, burning more bodies then they can deal with, as well as begging the rest of the world to airdrop oxygen tanks because they exhausted their own supply.

People are too stupid to not take this virus more seriously. If there was an easier solution, we would have done it already, but nobody has. Life can only return to normal when most people are vaccinated. Otherwise, just be patient and wait.

[–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Lifting Covid restrictions early never worked. They always ended in failure.

IFIFY:
Covid restrictions never worked. They always ended in failure.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

What a ridiculous take on everything.

[–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Don't give that "radicalcentrist" timesuck anymore of your energy off the main page. This comment will not be on the main page via continue this thread ---->

[–]radicalcentrist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

If you got a rebuttal, I would love to hear it.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Sure think cupcake. But when I get home.

[–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (23 children)

And given how much bigger their stores are, it was possible to social distance.

BULLSHIT. That's not why. You're shilling with poor reasoning.

[–]radicalcentrist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (22 children)

Take a look at these pictures. At least when the government did get involved, Super centers were forced to limit indoor shopping capacity and had signs telling shoppers to stay 2 meters away from everyone.

https://globalnews.ca/news/7745712/covid-ontario-state-of-emergency-big-box-stores-restrictions/

It's nothing like a Concert or Movie theater, where people are expected to stand/sit shoulder to shoulder.

[–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (21 children)

Gimme a fucking break.
I live in Ontario and protest the lockdown weekly.
Global News is CORPORATE PROPAGANDA!!!

[–]radicalcentrist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (20 children)

I'm in Canada too bruh, and I'm telling you that you're wasting your time with this anti-lockdown nonsense.

Trust me, Doug Ford and Trudeau never once paid attention to this nonsense. Politicians can be dumb, but it's even dumber to spread a virus to millions of people. Just relax and realize there are professionals who understand this pandemic better than random bloggers who failed this subject day one.

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    [–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Trust me

    You've got to earn that.

    Ford and Trudeau are pushing the nonsense. It's clear to anyone who's skeptical or understands how power exploits.

    If it were a real pandemic more people you know would be dead. This is an exaggerated myth based on some true things, like 9/11, the Holocaust, and MANY other historical events that are politically twisted.

    Don't ignore that there are professionals that are being censored, suppressed, and oppressed for political and financial reasons. Ask why.

    [–]fschmidt 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (40 children)

    So just get vaccinated, preferably 100 times.

    [–]radicalcentrist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (39 children)

    Oh I did. But this pandemic is a group effort and not an individual one.

    Unvaccinated people are making the lives of doctors/nurses more rough, since they're the ones occupying hospital beds that could go towards other patients instead.

    Like take this dumbass who said he rather get sick again than be vaccinated.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/louisiana-covid-19-hospital-unit/

    At some point, society needs to recognize these people are too stupid for their own safety. It's like how we have to give helmets to retarded people.

    [–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (38 children)

    this pandemic is a group effort and not an individual one.

    Propaganda lies.

    If it were a true "group effort" they'd let us fix our "health"care systems. They can pay for death and unhelathy measures (military, police, vaccines, shit food, booze, masks, lockdown/no exercise, etc) but they won't pay for health much less allow solutions through (vitamin C & D, zinc, etc) their censored media.

    [–]radicalcentrist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (36 children)

    Because those solutions do nothing about actually addressing the problem at large.

    Taking Vitamin C is not the same as wearing a mask or going into quarantine. When you understand that, the pandemic will go away.

    [–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (35 children)

    You're watching too much corporate media.

    Quarantine the sick and the weak - the rest is obvious tyranny.

    [–]radicalcentrist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (34 children)

    The only reason other people got sick is because unmasked idiots can't control themselves and they bring their disease with them everywhere.

    Don't tell me about tyranny when you don't have a right to infect me.

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      [–]radicalcentrist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (31 children)

      Unmasked people are virtually banned from all indoor establishments unless they have proof they're vaccinated, so I'm not sure what kind of fight you're putting up. Any business worth their salt are not going to listen to bad advice.

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        [–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

        We're organizing to resist just as the corporatocracy organized to oppress.

        [–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

        Since you live in Ontario I welcome you to come to Windsor where I can breathe on you in person. I have every right to breathe free.

        [–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (15 children)

        because of Covid outbreaks.

        IFIFY:
        because of COVID being used as an excuse for tyranny.

        [–]radicalcentrist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

        It's honestly not a good one.

        It's a virus that affects everyone, rich or poor. Every society would have been better off hitting the emergency breaks, instead of trying to claim it was a "just a flu".

        [–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

        It's a virus that affects everyone, rich or poor.

        IFIFY:
        It's a virus that does not affect everyone, young and old.

        [–]radicalcentrist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

        It made the previous President of the U.S sick, despite his insane ramblings that the virus was suppose to be gone by Easter. It doesn't discriminate, but why people feel the need to downplay this boggles my mind.

        [–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

        It made the previous President of the U.S sick

        Allegedly. All presidents are proven liars, before they even take office. They're also all Zionists pushing their UN depopulation Agenda 2030. Why you can't see that boggles my mind.

        [–]radicalcentrist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

        What do you mean allegedly? You're saying the 2 weeks he was out were fake? Especially during the debates?

        They're also all Zionists pushing their UN depopulation Agenda 2030. Why you can't see that boggles my mind.

        It's the people who deny Covid that have been culling themselves the entire time. It's both hilarious and sad. You don't need an Elite government conspiracy to pull that off. Refusing to wear a mask and entering a crowded room is enough to get yourself killed recklessly.

        [–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

        Are you kidding? Trump would have destroyed Biden in a debate. It was an excuse NOT to debate. They're both Zionists playing their roles.

        Your "culling" numbers are as ridiculous as the fake "case" numbers. The real sad tragedy is that people still have faith in the "authorities", media, government, and their shill "experts" and can't even see the propaganda through their screens.

        If masks are so necessary for this airborne virus - why isn't anyone wearing goggles?

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          [–]radicalcentrist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

          I seriously don't understand why would millions... no.... BILLIONS of people fake a virus at random.

          If it's a game, it's not a fun one. If it's about money, governments are actually PAYING unvaxxed people to go get it, so that doesn't make sense either.

          At this point, it's just flat out denial. But a very stupid one since the consequences of many anti-vaxxers is getting sick and literally dying from the disease, when everyone told them about the risks.

          [–]radicalcentrist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

          Say what? Trump skipped two weeks so he didn't have to debate Biden? The same person who made fun of Biden for "always hiding", only to turn around and admit himself into a hospital? Come on, these conspiracies are just getting ridiculous...

          Your "culling" numbers are as ridiculous as the fake "case" numbers.

          Keep telling yourself that when everyday, unvaxxed people are being sent to the hospital and are regretting not getting vaccinated when they have chance. Again, we are trying to help you. Everyone who keeps denying Covid always end up being the next natural selection.

          If masks are so necessary for this airborne virus - why isn't anyone wearing goggles?

          Except they are?

          https://www.google.com/search?q=covid+goggles&rlz=1C1CHBF_enCA871CA871&sxsrf=ALeKk01VepklI4FagGS7n9dchWsJfH9K8Q:1627005942681&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj7zoq6jfjxAhUpn-AKHZdGD3gQ_AUoAXoECAEQAw&biw=2560&bih=1297

          [–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

          Trump taking 2 weeks off is not the same thing as Biden flaking on the whole thing - yet some how miraculously "winning" it. To be clear, I despise both Trump and Biden.

          The only unvaxxed regrets I've seen thus far are crisis actors and I've seem FAAAAR more /s/VaccineInjuries than anything else, including COVID deaths - and my father died allegedly "with COVID".

          Goggles were also for sale long before COVID came along, so you've proven nothing.

          If those are not N95 goggles then they're not keeping anything out.

          [–]Yin 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (36 children)

          That's not why.

          Covid itself didn't do shit.

          Political agenda drumming up fake hysteria (as planned) caused that.

          https://twitter.com/MillerStream/status/1338203809114296321

          The excess death rate is on target to be within a normal range 2020 and 2021. It is literally not much worse than a bad flu depending on the density of the region in terms of quantifying covid itself and that's with their faulty inflated "covid death" stats.

          It's a fucking pandemic in your idiotic brain. Your illogical mental illness is also the reason people are wearing cloth and paper diapers on their faces which don't stop the virus particles: theater, hysteria, propaganda.

          Seek help.

          [–]radicalcentrist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (35 children)

          The Tokyo Olympics had to be pushed back by an entire year because of Covid, and even with the games officially starting tomorrow, several athletes have caught the virus and can't leave their hotels.

          If you really believe Japan would go through the effort to fake something like this, while being projected to lose more than $10 Billion in money they'll never get back, you're too far gone.

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            [–]radicalcentrist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (33 children)

            What kind of data would they be looking for that got the Olympics cancelled for an entire year? Whether or not the virus was deadly?

            Several countries (who were not ran by staunch right wing idiots like Trump or Bolsonaro), already knew that and immediately declared a public health emergency was now in effect.

            Japan also got this right in the beginning as well. Shinzo Abe or whoever was Prime Minister of Japan last year, was not going to host the Olympics at a time when maybe half the world was still marching in the streets against masks, and doing all other sorts of stupid shit before governments got their act together and enabled restrictions.

            One year later, Japan was almost on the right path towards opening up and even hosting a safe olympics but 'shocker', the current Prime Minister is another Conservative fool who dismissed concerns that Japan was still not fully prepared to host the games safely and that more effort should have went towards supporting the local health industry first.

            But since the country already pissed away Billions of dollars in a botched effort to try and save face, the Olympic games were scheduled to go ahead anyway. But the problems with doing this are so apparent. Several athletes are already confirmed sick, while they're still expected to compete in physical sports. It wont surprise me if we hear more confirmed cases over the next two weeks, especially when Tokyo itself has also seen cases skyrocket in the past couple of days.

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              [–]radicalcentrist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (31 children)

              There was already data. Images from late 2019 showed China was having trouble containing this new disease. The Chinese government was desperate to roll out field hospitals and tell Wuhan residents to avoid leaving the province to stop the spread.

              Japan hosting the Olympics last year would have been a move of dumbass proportions, since they would have let in thousands of foreign athletes and spectators from around the world, most of whom would have walked straight past the airport gates and infect the native Japanese population without a single care in the world.

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                [–]radicalcentrist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (29 children)

                Foreign reporters were already inside the country when it happened and they reported the exact same thing.

                Like I said, this is insane denial. Are you going to say China doesn't exist now? We can't prove a hunk of land mass exists?

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