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[–]iDontShift 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (12 children)

i don't see God as being an authority, but the provider of all things, the facilitator of life itself.

we live within the Body of God. knowing this can lead to understandings of our changing thoughts/ideas and how they are represented in the mind.. matters. all the words you speak show your allegiance to one idea or another.

ultimately, the materialistic mind can be proven to be just that.

who do you get mad at?

who do you discuss things with?

who is talking to who?

if you can get mad at yourself, perhaps there are two of you.. (this is Eckhart Tolle's way of describing it)

in meditation I found myself separated from my mind .. i felt it fall asleep and (i) was still awake.

doesn't make you immoral,but to me.. missing the bigger picture.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is excellent.

Eckhart Tolle's approach reminds me somewhat of Paul Tillich approach (as I know the latter, but not the former)

As I look them up, I see that they actually seem to have similar approaches to God as 'Being-Itself'

(Head's up to /u/Jesus)

[–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

It's existentialism and called the Universe that we live in. Not God or any woo. The "spirit" and spiritualism is where mind and body interface, often conflicting or confusing. There's no need to make up nonsense to fill in the gaps. Reason and logic and admissions that there may be gaps are all that's necessary.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Have a look at Eckhart Tolle's and Paul Tillich's approaches if you are curious. This ain't existentialism in the post-Nietzschean sense

(...though I think Nietzsche would have found it interesting)

Whereas:

Nietzsche is the more important forerunner of the Existentialist courage to be as oneself.

Tillich describes the individual who has self-affirmed in this way: “He mediates the powers of being which are concentrated in him. He has them within himself in knowledge…. He directs the course of his life”

(http://people.bu.edu/wwildman/tillich/resources/review_tillich-paul_couragetobe.htm)

[–]iDontShift 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

a world without 'Good' being the core of all living things... just try and imagine it.

now all violence is a form of insanity amongst animals. they get hungry, the hunger drives them to kill. after the kill, the gazelles relax as the lions eat. that is the way of things.

i professed, as a test, that there are no accidents.

i still hold this is true.

since I've stepped into a life with God, I've had significantly less trouble and more joy expanding, while some regress as those not able to stand the light of your presence.

whatever, I can't convince anyone of anything that won't take it upon themselves to find out.

i say chaos can exist within divine perfection..

but divine perfection cannot exist within chaos ..

i don't see chaos. i see idiots misusing.. not using.. not understanding.. and I see snake oil sales men.. selling fear.. they change their tune when we get bored of their current stick. but always away from God they point.

catholic church doesn't care about your state of mind.

but to me, that is the most important matter.

enjoy thinking about these things, if good comes from it, that'd be nice. if not, fuck it.

peace out.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Brillaint points.

I might note that I agree with Pope Francis on many things, though I am not Catholic.

[–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Fuck God. Fuck government. Fuck "authority".

My strongest recommendation: Mark Passio's Natural Law lecture is 3 hours long. If there's a shorter half hour summary I'd point you to that.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Mark+Passio+Natural+Law

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

God is not human, but spirit. We can only have an interpersonal relationship with God. He provides, we show our faith and lead our lives in the way his Son preached. Tone down the carnal mind and your materialist ego, that is what God wants all of us to do.

[–]iDontShift 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

God is not human, but spirit

so you set yourself apart of God? silly .. God is all things, the spirit is how we see it here, but we all see God in your form, my form and the bird outside. all things. everything. not a single thing not. the NOT was created by God but is nothing but an illusion. we only see the not here, but it disappears in the absolute.. in the light of Truth.

We can only have an interpersonal relationship with God.

so that means it doesn't actually effect the outside world? because that is the only reason I can see you said this about my comment.

He provides

yes

we show our faith

we show our faith by how we react to events.

lead our lives in the way his Son preached.

do you?

all the things I do you can do and more - Jesus

did you know 'we' made Jesus 'son of God' at the council of nicaea? before that there was a rift, half thought he was son of God, others thought he was a man. the 'son of God' .. won .. thanks to a politician that saw which was easier to control.

Tone down the carnal mind and your materialist ego

i advocate meditation. i dunno what you are after in your idea of materialistic ego. I have few wants, desires.. beyond peace and love for the world.

that is what God wants all of us to do.

God wants us to wake up to the reality as it is ..

and stop sleeping and pretending we are less than we are.

which is what you appear to be advocating..

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

God is the creator of all things and told us if you do not hate this world the love of teh father is not inyou. Knowing God comes through following Christ.I do not believe in God, I know Him.

[–]iDontShift 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

yet you hate this world.

are you seriously thinking God sent us to this world to hate it?

we have free choice. you think God says.. make this choice..

what kind of free choice is that?

and God, being all love, says hate the world?

you may 'no' God, but I Love God.

people think God chooses them.. well yes, we are all chosen by God.. you must choose yourself, you must believe in yourself..

and as Jesus says something like 'if you cannot believe in yourself, then believe in me, and thru me you will be saved.'

and tho I don't believe in the only son.. it is said God 'so Loved the world that he gave his only son'

your view makes you retract, mine tells you to expand, but in the right way, expressing God thru you.

be a conduit for God, not a preacher of a paper 'god' ..

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You must hate the sin love the sinner. Jesus said he would put father againist son, son against father and so forth for a reason. Following Christ and preaching the gospel as many of our missionaries do in our Church can get you killed. In Israel some were beaten and stoned.

Yes, God says if you love the world more than the father the father is not in you. This world is ruled by Satan, the Kingdon is not of this world.

No, believing in yourself without God is like building a house without a foundation. Satanists believe in themselves and do thou what they wilt.

He LOVED the world for our sake but we must hate our life and the sins of this world for His sake. That means to love only His creations through Him and to help His creatures.

Hating the world simply means to reject the world for faith in God theough the salvation of Christ. Hence, we love His creatures and creation as we walk in faith.

[–]iDontShift 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

we must hate our life

good isn't found in hate

no happy ending to unhappy journey

enjoy the ride or miss the point

fools think we are here to suffer... suffering is necessary to develop compassion.. suffering comes from acting out of alignment from Truth.

discerning God is each individuals responsibility.

you sound like a person reciting