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[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Fantasy economics is fantasy.

The correct word is theoretical, and I would remind you that before Capitalism was tried it began as a theory — one which has led to the betterment of humanity, but has now become obsolete. It's time for a new theory to be tried.

If it ain't broke don't fix it.

Tell that to the millions living in poverty — or those who have to go without the medical treatment they need — or the patriots who's way of life is being destroyed by the banks.

Capitalism is broken. Not for you — not for the elite — but it is for the People.

If I build an automated farm and then lounge around being fed for free I deserve it, I earned it

Yes, but most CEOs didn't do that, or at the very least not most investors — don't forget that most of them are just born into rich families and throw their money behind people doing the real work.

My neighbor who tills with a hoe and plants seeds individually works much harder

But he didn't work more efficiently, which is what you did in this scenario. The disparity in wealth makes sense in these circumstances — because you genuinely contributed to humanity, rather than just cutting corners and manipulating Consumers like most mega-corporations do.

My kids may be lazy morons, but I built that farm for them.

Yes, and they're entitled to that, but they aren't entitled billions and billions of dollars, with which they use to bribe politicians and kill small businesses.

If you take away my freedom to invent and benefit from my inventions and investments, and benefit my kids you will be left with a society of morons who starve whenever the weather is bad.

If you take out the "whenever the weather is bad" part, that's basically Communism.

What I want is Corporatism, which solved many problems present in Capitalism, while avoiding the pitfalls of state control of the economy.

As far as there may be inventors who are unable to invent due to poverty, that is a tiny minority of people.

Inventors, maybe, but innovators: they are who we need, and who are unable to realize their full potential under dictatorships of Capital and Labor.

Find a better way to empower them than destroying society with socialist bullshit.

Like making the class system harmonious rather than chaotic, and allowing the various organs of the Nation to work together towards the betterment of our People. The only way to save American from Socialism is the embrace Corporatism. Dictatorships of Capital and Labor are unsustainable, it's time for a true Democracy.

Welfare states create welfare queens not inventors

Where did I propose a welfare state? Or perhaps you just assumed that because I disagree with you on an issue that I must be the polar opposite of you in every conceivable way?

[–]ReeferMadness 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Tell that to the millions living in poverty

Capitalism is not responsible for poverty. Once again poverty is the lowest in capitalist societies. I am for social safety nets. But they need to be limited. Poverty can not be eliminated. Claims to the contrary are bullshit.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Capitalism is not responsible for poverty.

Even though we waste enough resources to properly take care of our People, and the fact that a small handful of Liberal elite control the vast majority of wealth, while the vast majority of people are left with but a sliver of the pie.

poverty is the lowest in capitalist societies

It would be lower in a corporatist society.

I am for social safety nets. But they need to be limited.

Yes, they do. The welfare state only hurts the economy in the end with its perverse incentives.

Poverty can not be eliminated.

Relatively-speaking: no. Objectively-speaking: yes. If we pursue economic growth that benefits everyone, rather than just the billionaires, then we can achieve a society in which everyone's basic needs are met — even if not surpassed.