My Thoughts on What's Wrong with Saidit

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[–]DrStrangelove 19 insightful - 7 fun19 insightful - 6 fun20 insightful - 7 fun -  (18 children)

I'm mostly lurker too, and I've been here since the early days when there were only like 7 active users. Endlesssunflowers has been providing almost daily content for this site for 2+ years, out of the goodness of their heart, for free. If you want more engaging content I suggest you provide it instead of concern trolling saidit to take a swipe at someone you dislike. I'm not a fan of the ethno-nationalist bullshit that pops up here (I appreciate that it can, just rather it didn't) which certainly has more potential to turn off new users than a sentimental meme, but I've never felt the need to call anyone out by name for failing to meet my specific content quality and engagement needs, or tell M7 & D3rr how to curate their own project. This post is honestly the first time in my entire saidit experience I wish there was a downvote button. Bravo.

p.s. there is a "block" function

[–]SaidOverRed 8 insightful - 5 fun8 insightful - 4 fun9 insightful - 5 fun -  (6 children)

Some of us really, really don't like to use it. Also casual readers (those who don't create accounts) will see the unfiltered version...

[–]Nemesis[S] 12 insightful - 6 fun12 insightful - 5 fun13 insightful - 6 fun -  (5 children)

Exactly, it's like noticing crime in your city is high, saying something about it at work, and someone tells you "stop reading the news". It's not a solution, things will never get better if people don't notice an issue, point it out and discuss.

[–]bobbobbybob 3 insightful - 5 fun3 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 5 fun -  (4 children)

no, you self obsessed idiot. Its about curating your own experience vs dictating everyone else's.

Don't like it? filter it. Let the rest of us filter to suit ourselves. We are not here to embrace 'growth', but to have a nice time.

And occasionally call out fascist wannabes like yourself.

[–]SaidOverRed 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

At first I thought you were replying to me, but either way. Fine, have it your way. I'll click the "block user" button on you...

[–]bobbobbybob 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

I love how some people feel the need to announce their departure.

After taking things very personally.

[–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Lol

[–]bobbobbybob 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

when i read the context to understand your necrostalking, I first thought it was an TheAmeliaManiac thread. But no, fascist wannabies everywhere

[–]Jesus 8 insightful - 5 fun8 insightful - 4 fun9 insightful - 5 fun -  (1 child)

Downvotes will be the downfall of saidit.

[–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

I think it would be good to have 3 votes - insightful, fun, and dislike - as long as their sorting/ratings are separate and won't affect each other (ie. as on YouTube) - to simply be statistical indicators.

[–]Tom_BombadilBombadildo 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Endlesssunflowers has been providing almost daily content for this site for 2+ years, out of the goodness of their heart, for free. If you want more engaging content I suggest you provide it instead of concern trolling saidit to take a swipe at someone you dislike.

+3

[–]Nemesis[S] 3 insightful - 6 fun3 insightful - 5 fun4 insightful - 6 fun -  (5 children)

I agree that it was mean of me to callout a specific user, but the point of my post isn't to whine that content isn't engaging enough, it's that I believe something is wrong with the core saidit formula. It bills itself as one thing, but it no longer actively holds itself to that standard. It's a fact that the front page is clogged with trash almost every day, that users like endlesssunflowers demonstrate a larger trend. A post doesn't have to be good or bad, just controversial enough to get views and push out actual content. I think this is a serious issue that should be addressed, as a site like saidit is only as good as its content. And I don't think this is just my opinion. We've been losing users for months now, as the reddit banwaves are driving people to make new reddit alternatives. It's not concern-trolling if there's genuine cause for concern, and indeed, I made this post after looking at the numbers and wondering to myself why saidit is being passed up by these new competitors. Blocking users would just be turning away from the problem, since there's no regular moderation, this site only works if users can see bad content/pyramid violations and speak up against it via comments.

[–]Jesus 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

I believe something is wrong with the core saidit formula.

And what is that?

Users are eventually banned if they post low tier posts in every single comment. I have been here since the beginning. You can report users and M7 will look it over.

It's up to you to uphold the pyramid of debate!

a fact that the front page is clogged with trash almost every day, that users like endlesssunflowers demonstrate a larger trend. A post doesn't have to be good or bad, just controversial enough to get views and push out actual content.

I agree, much of it is bias for Trump. Which is fine, rather it seems to be the titles which are sensationalized. It's ridiculous, that is why I use subscription and friends to see good posts.

Why dontou continue to pinpoint Endless summers, one of the only left-leaning poster it seems on the frontpage?

There is, again, a report option.

[–]bobbobbybob 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

i learnt to avoid that clickbait nonsense. life improved

[–]Nemesis[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I point out endless precisely because he demonstrates that what you say about m7 enforcement is just wrong. I've watched this account post low tier daily for a year and nothing happens. I think what you wrote SHOULD be the policy, but right now it isn't enforceable, because M7 most of the time is busy running the site, he can't be patrolling the mounds of shitposts that roll in every day. In most reddit-like sites that's the role of the subsaidit-level mods, to prune spam and shitposts. What I'm pointing out is that a lot of the default subs don't have active mods, so low quality posting is rampant and chokes the feed of the average user.
I honestly don't have anything against endlesssummers personally, and I don't care if he's right or left. He's just the poster boy, in my opinion, of the worst element of saidit, people that spam and abandon low quality posts 24/7.

[–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I like most posts by Endless.

I agree, M7 is overburdened and won't delegate, but it's his site and all of that shit he's carrying is his choice. If only there was a forum where he could find help. /s

[–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Agreed. Stop relying on some "police" to do what we as a community should be doing: always actively patrolling ourselves.

[–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

A++

The block function is shit as is. It needs to indicate to the blocked user that they are blocked - and then it might be worth having.

[–]SaidOverRed 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I agree with this. Transparency is a good thing. It's a nice way to sanity check that one is not being toooooo much of an a-hole on the internet.