Saidit is getting shitty, full of losers that keep banging their head against the things that they hate, small simple minds that focus on division, that keep talking about how scary the left is, how bad white people are treated (with no sense of irony) how bad the protestors make them feel LOL etc

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[–]Dragonerne 9 insightful - 4 fun9 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 4 fun -  (3 children)

As a solution I would like to upgrade Saidit's pyramid of debate to: "have some basic respect" or "be excellent with each other".

No. Never do that. It is too vague and will be misinterpreted by moderators like the ones on r/Denmark or r/Europe.
"Basic respect" is like "Hate speech" laws. It doesn't work.

Pyramid of Debate is perfect because it is about the argument. It absolutely destroys leftists because they always derail, deflect, insult etc.

"Basic Respect" will be abused sooo much by leftists. They did it so much on r/Denmark that it even became a meme (https://i.imgur.com/ayG2gUJ.jpg). "Sænk Tonen" (= lower the tone, danish expression), the bottom text says "En lille smule betyder en hel del" (= just a little can make a huge different). In english you have the word "Thought police" (tankepoliti in danish) but we also have the word "Tonepolitiet" which is like the "Tone police".

[–]SheSellsSeaShells 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

Imagine thinking that expecting basic courtesy is exclusive to the left.

[–]Dragonerne 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Please tone down the attitude.

You're ridiculing me. Are mods even seeing this? Why can't we have a civil discourse with basic respect between the users.
Lack of basic respect between users has really been a problem lately and mods are not doing anything about it at all. It's really ruining the mood in the subreddit and creating a lot of bad vibes and negativity.

It's always in these kinds of threads too. Are you on some discord brigading the threads and coordinating these hostilities?
Etc. Etc.

Trust me the Tone Police is real and you completely missed the point of my comment. It's not that "expecting basic courtesy is exclusive to the left" at all. In fact rather the opposite actually.

As I also wrote in my comment, leftists love to throw insults and so on. This has nothing to do with "basic courtesy". It is about power and control over what you're allowed to say.
They will abuse such rules massively because they are vague.

They will twist "basic respect" to disallow specific words, to ban users that "trigger" others by writing "mean comments" etc.

And they will ban you with a straight face quoting their "basic respect"-rule while insulting you for being a bad human being.

[–]Wahwah 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Precisely, the moment your 'feelings' become thoroughly involved in the debate, the debate is flawed. That never suggests you abuse is permitted in debates either. If someone abuses you ad hominem, they are definitely not looking for a rational debate.