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    [–]theFriendlyDoomer 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    But I still don't see why it's okay to detain people without a trial for an individual crime, and then enslave them.

    And yeah, I know Communism is worse. That's why I don't support that either. Two things can be bad, even if one of them is much, much worse. I also am sympathetic to the idea that the Anglo-European powers set up Hitler and that they could have just taken in the European Jews and saved a bunch of lives (. . . then again, since they didn't, how much direct/total control can Jewry be said to have over those countries?).

    I'm even open to the idea of super-efficient governments that bypass democracy. I just don't know why we have to always look at the same one country from one short period of time. There's Singapore, there's Dubai, there's the reactionary government of the Two Sicilies, there is Napoleon . . . I mean, the list goes on and on. Mencius Moldbug is right; the structure we are in doesn't work and is going to change.

    [–]Jesus 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    .... to detain people without a trial for an individual crime, and then enslave them.

    Very wrong. I agree, but let us be honest with ourselves. The US did that to the Japanese.

    The difference is one great power lost the war so it was markedly easy to use atrocity propaganda to heroize the winners and re-write history to the benefit of the victors.

    [–]theFriendlyDoomer 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I think we should be honest about that. We should also be honest about the actions of the CIA and our puppet, the IMF, after the war.

    Two sub-reddits I thought the oddest were the ones that said the empire did nothing wrong and thanos did nothing wrong. Most people don't like to say something was "on balance better" or "had justifiable motivations." They would much rather say "did nothing wrong."