Wtf is with all the antisemitism here?

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[–]72ndGender 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (21 children)

If any speech bothers you, you shouldn't be in free speech areas. It will just drive you crazy. Just remember that people will say shit that upsets you nearly everywhere you go. It will be hard to stay away from it. One option is to learn to ignore people.

To be clear, the hate for Jews comes from the generalization that they are commies and try to force cultural Marxism into Western society. A vast majority of Jews I've ever heard from feel that way. So people then start identifying ALL Jews as being associated with those ideologies. Then people in free speech areas get to talk about their feelings about Jews. The next issue is that nearly every single Jew in the world is a Zionist, so that brings in hate from a lot of different angles.

[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (20 children)

Half of US Jews reject the ideology of Zionism: https://mondoweiss.net/2012/09/the-true-crisis-of-zionism-silent-majority-of-us-jews-have-never-supported-it/

[–]Markimus 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

95% of American Jews support Israel.

My recent review of the available data shows that about nine in 10 American Jews are more sympathetic to Israel than to the Palestinians. (That compares to about six in 10 of all Americans.) Additionally, 95% of Jews have favorable views of Israel, while 10% have favorable views of the Palestinian Authority -- significantly more pro-Israel than the overall national averages of 71% favorable views of Israel and 21% favorable views of the Palestinian Authority.

[–]america_first_1776 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Where in the article does it say that?

[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

In the title?

The true crisis of Zionism: silent majority of US Jews have never supported it

[–]america_first_1776 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There seemed to be other polls linked in the article, but I didn't see an actual scientific poll stating this was the case. Though, I basically just skimmed it to look for such a poll.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It sucks that they are silent about it. What I don't get is secular leftist Jews who are quite open about conspiracies and US crimes but attack anyone who dare mentions Israel's role in 9/11.

They still hold religiously to their non-religious Jewish secularism and Israel as a state.

[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah it's the ultimate taboo in their mind, I'm sure.

[–]72ndGender 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

I didn't see anything in that article that supported the claim from the title. Anything specific like a study, as opposed to the author's opinion? Also, I disagree with the definition of Zionism that is being used, but to be fair, mine is probably overly broad. Approving of sending US taxpayer money to Israel is clear cut Zionism to me.

This caught my eye though: ”This country is our Palestine, this city our Jerusalem, this house of God our temple.” This is in reference to the U.S. and would explain a lot of the mindset of American Jews. Especially if they aren't pro Israel. I've still seen VERY few Jewish people that are not pro Israel. Whether that is called Zionism, or not.

[–]magnora7 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Approving of sending US taxpayer money to Israel is clear cut Zionism to me.

Yeah I'd agree with that. I think the real core of Zionism is the belief that Jerusalem (where Mt. Zion is) belongs to Israel, and they want the Dome on the Rock gone, and the Temple of Solomon rebuilt in its place. To me, that's the central core of Zionism, and stuff like giving money to Israel is just a part of that goal.

Another way to put it is that Zionism is Israeli Imperialist Nationalism. Supporting expansion of the Israeli empire.

And of course this rise in Zionism was funded in the 1860s by the Rothschilds, to whom the Balfour declaration that created Israel is addressed.

I've still seen VERY few Jewish people that are not pro Israel.

Yeah because they know if they speak out, they will get in a lot of trouble because Zionists have so much power over Judaism. In a lot of ways, no one has abused the Jews more than the Zionists. The anti-Zionist Jews are basically told to shut up and sit in the corner, as their ideology is stolen and spearheaded by a power-hungry organization.

And then of course Zionism is a more encompassing term because the majority of Zionists are Christians, not Jews. This is the purpose of Freemasonry, to get Christians to support Zionism and rebuilding the Temple of Solomon (after which many of the 33 levels of Freemasonry are named)

[–]72ndGender 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

^ this guy knows his Jews. Jokes aside, you have a much more detailed understanding of the situation with Israel and Jews than I do. I'm agree with your entire comment though. I'm certain Jews that speak out against Zionism would be treated like blacks that speak out against BLM.

Another way to put it is that Zionism is Israeli Imperialist Nationalism. Supporting expansion of the Israeli empire.

And using American military to do it.

And of course this rise in Zionism was funded in the 1860s by the Rothschilds, to whom the Balfour declaration that created Israel is addressed.

This explains a lot about everything leading up to WWII...

[–]magnora7 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I'm certain Jews that speak out against Zionism would be treated like blacks that speak out against BLM.

Yeah that's a great analogy.

And using American military to do it.

You got it. That's why the US invaded Iraq, Kuwait, Syria, and many others. The US military is a tool of Israel's expansionist imperialism.

This explains a lot about everything leading up to WWII...

Yeah exactly. If you want to learn some very interesting stuff most people don't know about, read these two wikipedia articles.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement

[–]72ndGender 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Thanks for the links!

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Look up the 7 countries in the Talmud. Amalak are the countries the US attacked. They are Israel's enemies. Balkenization secures Israel and makes it much easier to payout rebuilding loans and then exploit the country via privatization of their assets.

The MIC and Israel work together for their own agendas.

[–]72ndGender 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

We still have Iran left though. War with them is inevitable, if Israel gets their way.

What is/are MIC?

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

They are called self-hating Jews.

Look up Vanunu. The whistleblower exposing Israel's Nuclear reactors.

He is still in jail. He was an Israeli Jew who converted to Christianity. His sentence is longer than what a Jew gets in Israel for murder. He has zero rights, no due process.

Vanunu said Israel killed JFK with the CIA.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

American military

Who is in the highest seats of military power to call the shots?

Can we find out about this?

Are they Zionists, dual-Israelis?

[–]72ndGender 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is a fucked up story. And even more fucked up that Israel was never held accountable for their illegal development of nukes. After everything he has been through, I would believe him about JFK. And AIPAC is still not a registered PAC, if I understand correctly, and if it's true that JFK wanted it registered.

I'm going to be spreading the word about this guy.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So, you do then admit Zionism is a biblical zealot ideology. Political secularist Zionism is just another form barren of religiosity but with its caricature that originated in the 19th century.

Zionism is Israeli Imperialist Nationalism.

Read the Torah. This is nothing new. High priests plundered and pillaged their enemies' lands killing women and children. It is an imperialist aspiration for land. Religious or not.

[–][deleted] 0 insightful - 1 fun0 insightful - 0 fun1 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Interesting, but doesnt the jewish bible say to never interact with goyim with integrety or respect or something and that non jews are less than animals?

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Netanyahu:

Palestinians are pampared.

I've seen many Jews say this also.

Yes, Palestinians are pampered? Yes, totally, and Israel isn't with their trillions of dollars in aid.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Israel was founded by secularist Zionist. Also, many mossad members formally worked wirh the National socialists.

Still, over 50% of Jews in Israel support Zionism. And there is such a thing as crypto-Zionism. Neocons pretended to be anti-Zionistic for plenty of years whilst their actions showed a different story.

But yes, many Jews are against Zionism. Orthodox Jewish sects, not Chabad Zionistc hasidic sects, are against Zionism, but I still don't support te Talmud and some of their backwards religious practices.