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[–]magnora7 17 insightful - 2 fun17 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 2 fun -  (18 children)

What would have to happen to make you think it's an actual big deal? Hundreds of millions of dollars are being lost on tons of event cancellations all over the world. They don't do that for the flu.

They also may be under-reporting cases, because there aren't enough tests to go around, and also because some hospitals and governments want to to downplay the numbers as much as possible.

So I'd be careful with that normalcy bias if I was you. Could be nothing, but I don't think it's smart to just ignore it at this point in time.

There's also 2 strains of it now, as it mutated during spread, one strain more deadly than the other.

Not to mention there's pretty good evidence this is a man-made bioweapon: https://jameslyonsweiler.com/2020/01/30/on-the-origins-of-the-2019-ncov-virus-wuhan-china/

[–]useless_aether[S] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (14 children)

okay, i admit, i don't follow the situation and theories at all, so i am ignorant. i just use my past experience. no one i know died from the mers coronavirus or any of the other animal-named flues. and i live relatively close to an international airport.. i know about event cancellations, i am even affected, but that indicates only the level of human fear/precaution.. i would have to see it in my community to take it seriously.

[–]magnora7 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

I agree there have been a lot of illnesses that have been seriously overhyped by the media in the last few years. No question about that, couldn't agree more.

However I see the amount of money people are willing to lose to contain this thing... they didn't shut down factories and conventions, and quarantine people on nearly the scale with those previous illnesses as they are with this one.

But it could end up being another overhyped fear-mongering thing. I was in the same mindset until a few days ago, when I saw they cancelled SXSW in the US and a huge electronics convention in China. There's too much money being lost to try and prevent spread, to just chalk it all up to hype. The money talks loudest, imo.

But honestly I am still on the fence about whether it's a serious problem or just another media scaremonger deal, so I totally get where you're coming from too.

[–]useless_aether[S] 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

i think one of the reasons there are more cancellations now is because the society is being changed towards more fear and prevention in general. the individualist idgaf mindset is superseded with collectivist, centralized 'socially responsible' behavior (we all love so much /s). i am probably wrong, but i wouldn't be surprised if the sxsw decision was made by some government bureaucrat and not the organizers (looked it up, it was the mayor apparently).

[–]magnora7 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

You could be right. Time will tell.

I do think it's good to be prepared in case there are supply chain shortages though. Even aside from this illness. Just good to have food and water to last a month or so if necessary.

[–]useless_aether[S] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

prep at all times folks, so you don't have to go and fight with your neighbors for a few rolls of tp

i have poultry, feed to last for a year, a (small) boat to fish, wells, ponds, solar, firewood and stocked up cellar all the time. /brag :-)

these are not expensive or excessive things for a peace of mind.

s/preppers

[–]Tom_BombadilBombadildo 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The land near the industry that I work in is my main obstacle.

I could move, and significantly increase my commute... :-/

I may move.... :-/

[–]useless_aether[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

but is there anything wrong with the land you have now, or is it just that the industry is too close to it?

[–]Tom_BombadilBombadildo 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Easement... :-/

[–]TranquilityApe 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Agree with this. "Well, those guys are taking precautions, so maybe we should?" --Fear and "precautions" spread faster than the virus itself. Also agree, we've already been exposed, so why worry about it. I choose to believe it's nothing, because if I'm right, then I didn't fall for the trick. If I'm wrong, I'm dead, so I won't have to listen to any 'I told you so's"

[–]bonked_or_maybe_not 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

They cancelled SXSW then turned around and literally that evening posted THIS. Do you see anything wrong there?

Polls are telling the DNC they have a massive uphill battle come November and they have in-fighting among their base for control of the party. They desperately need economic upheaval that they can blame on the current administration and could care less what they need to burn to get it. That's why you're seeing the types of reactions and media drumbeat this year.

[–]beermeem 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yup. This. Reddit is an absolute cesspool of “TrUMp iSn’T dOiNg EnoUgHzOrs!” shilling right now. Not even FB is anywhere close to that bad. In fact, most people on FB are barely talking about.

I chalk the SXSW decision up to politicians gonna politic. The mayor also confirmed they have zero cases and wouldn’t release how many negative tests they’d administered.

[–]Tom_BombadilBombadildo 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

However I see the amount of money people are willing to lose to contain this thing... they didn't shut down factories and conventions, and quarantine people on nearly the scale with those previous illnesses as they are with this one.

The people who are creating the panic (and benefiting from the panic) are not the ones who are paying the costs of shutting down factories, conventions, etc.

They are certainly benefiting from the increase in:

  • MSM revenues (through commercial advertising)
  • State-funded medicine/"vaccination" research
  • Quarantines investments
  • Medical equipment
  • Public fear (which results in voluntarily sacrificing civil rights, so the state can "save us")
  • etc.

My sense is that there is a plan to crash the economy, and if the economy collapses because of "a flu pandemic" then there is no one to blame...

[–]RuckFeddit 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

These decisions aren't taken lightly at all and governments tend to be very short term in their greed. Shutting down a country's economy and halting all tax revenue at this point already means we most likely are not getting the correct information. This is the first step in preventing full on anarchy possibly in the near future by slowing the infection rate as much as possible to hopefully prevent countries' respective health systems from caving in.

[–]Tom_BombadilBombadildo 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

What would have to happen to make you think it's an actual big deal?

The media has completely lost and and all credibility.

I would need names on the deceased.
* Schools attended.
* Employment history.
* Next of kin for confirmation etc.
* List of prescriptions used.
* Etc.

The media is guilty of deceiving the public by deliberately misrepresenting the facts. Serially.

They are serial deceivers, and cannot be trusted.

[–]useless_aether[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

haha, yes! this time the dead people they always use in elections to fake votes would be recycled as covid victims.

cdc spokesperson: "look! they ded!" <points at an urn filled with breadcrumbs>

[–]useless_aether[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They don't do that for the flu.

they can't generate fear with the good old flu, because we only fear the unknown.

[–]Jesus 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The big deal is not about how much agencies pump into it, or the endless media broadcasts and exaggerations about the virus, but if they know something we do not know. The agenda is clear. Dirty cash, ie. Cashless society and mandatory vaccines, at least pushing the perception that it must happen soon. That agenda alone illustrates someone is using the virus for ulterior motives.

I'm with you magnora7, I'm not doubting that governments and medical facilities are preparing in mass, and we should prepare for it and hope for the best, but if it does turn out to be another dub, then that's another election year virus PsyOp to check off the list.

Never let a crisis go to waste. Whether manufactured or real.

[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Never let a crisis go to waste. Whether manufactured or real.

Yeah exactly, that's the main takeaway here.