A girls' basketball team forfeited the championship to a team that allowed a male (trans-identified) play on the team, for the safety of the real girls. Refusing to play is the only way forward.

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[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

No, that's not fair. If we got rid of sexism kids wouldn't identify with gender and having sex-based teams wouldn't be distressing. But we won't, because we fetishize gender.

[–]ActuallyNot 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

If we got rid of sexism kids wouldn't identify with gender and having sex-based teams wouldn't be distressing.

I think your belief that kids only behave as males or females because of sexism is faulty. Testosterone has a very real and measurable effect on behavior, including approach to conflict, sex drive, risk taking as well as the secondary effects due to size and strength difference.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

But whole point of separating male and female athletes in the first place is because of how huge of an advantage the males have. So if we're going to base it on "gender identity", we might as well not split them up at all. Unless, of course, you're a sexist who thinks genders should be segregated.

[–]ActuallyNot 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

It's just not important enough at that age and level, compared to the value of inclusion for trans kids.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Then let's just have one team and forget about separating boys and girls.

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

That doesn't follow. More than half the kids at school are males. There's is probably a lot less than 1%, but certainly no more.

The former allows the domination of the sport away from girls if they have a disadvantage. The latter makes fuck all difference.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Even one MtF athlete can easily crush the cis women. Especially when all they have to do to get in the girls' competition is declare their gender, with no evidence of actually transitioning. Entire teams have lied about being trans women so they could cheat and win all the championships. And they get away with it and no one dares question it.

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Even one MtF athlete can easily crush the cis women.

Didn't in this case.

Especially when all they have to do to get in the girls' competition is declare their gender, with no evidence of actually transitioning.

If that's was the case in this case, show me where you got this information.

If it wasn't then its irrelevant. (As well as not proven).

Entire teams have lied about being trans women so they could cheat and win all the championships.

Really? Name two.

Hell, name one.