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[–]chottohen 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (7 children)

It is a legitimate part of Russia.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

And by that logic we should let Mexico take back all of the southwestern United States incl. Texas and California. Actually any territorial or nationality changes in the last century should be open season for armed conflict so that millions more can die! Brilliant fucking thinking.

Actually that's not even a fair comparison because nobody marched in and conquered Ukraine to annex their territories for another nation; they sought independence for themselves.

You are an actual piece of shit if you believe what you just said, justifying the murder of thousands for one nation's illegal territorial gain. People like you defended the Iraq war in 2003 and you're no less wrong now. The Ukrainian people have every right to not want to be put under the heel of the Russian oligarchy.

[–]1Icemonkey 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Notice this user deleted himself. What a pussy. Furthermore, Mexico has taken back the southwest of the US.

[–]JewsAreOfColor 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

This really is the war of the homophobes.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

you mean, it's a war on heteros

[–]JewsAreOfColor 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Now that’s what I call a just war.

[–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Mm

[–]JewsAreOfColor 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Then they would both be better off being run by Jews, and not just any Jews but Gay Jews.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

“Russian Propaganda!”.

[–]bucetao6969 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Fair point, but still. All these news sources suck.

[–]Yagihige 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I mean... that's the whole point of this post, it seems to me.

[–]bucetao6969 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Felt like it was more poking fun at them, since everyone aggres news sucks nowadays

[–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Mm

[–]ActuallyNot 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

"Welcome to Ukraine, the most CORRUPT nation in Europe" - Capitalization yours, not the Guardian's.

2015 was one year after the revolution of dignity, in which Yanukovych, who was accused of massive corruption and cronysims was ousted.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-25323964

https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/eastern-europe-caucasus/2013-12-11/yanukovych-must-go

https://www.spiegel.de/international/world/the-dubious-businees-of-ukraine-president-yanukovych-and-his-clan-a-833127.html

It was this popular removal of the corrupt president that showed moscow that they would not be able to make a puppet of Ukraine the way they did with Belarus, and ignited the invasion of Crimea, and the Russian-backed insurgency in Donetsk.

They were corrupt. And they still are, but is it improving.

The fight for Ukraine is a fight for liberal ideals. So how can Boris Johnson possibly lead it?

You missed the second half of the headline. Putin's Russia is a despotic nation. Political opponents are assassinated or arrested. Urkaine has essentially free elections, and where they are perceived as not free, the people have stood up while their leaders were disappeared until the corruption was fixed. Hence the fight for liberal ideals.

Commentary: Ukraine’s neo-NAZI problem ... Again, capitalization is your's not Reuters'.

Note that Ukraine's neo-nazi problem was not one that needed to be fixed by invasion and annexation.

To be clear, the Kremlin’s claims that Ukraine is a hornets’ nest of fascists are false: far-right parties performed poorly in Ukraine’s last parliamentary elections, and Ukrainians reacted with alarm to the National Militia’s demonstration in Kiev. But connections between law enforcement agencies and extremists give Ukraine’s Western allies ample reason for concern. C14 and Kiev's city government recently signed an agreement allowing C14 to establish a "municipal guard" to patrol the streets; three such militia-run guard forces are already registered in Kiev, and at least 21 operate in other cities.

- The article.

A Ukrainian comedian-turned-president is embroiled in Trump’s impeachment mess

Yes. Trump was impeached for withholding military aid to Ukraine. Putin supports Trump and vice-versa. This does not imply that Ukraine doesn't have a democracy.

Ukrainian president’s rule becomes increasingly corrupt, authoritarian

April 2021? That was before the Ukraine Crisis? When did you think the Ukraine Crisis started?

[–]Questionable 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

April 2021? That was before the Ukraine Crisis? When did you think the Ukraine Crisis started?

/2014. But you already knew that and are just playing dumb.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Donbas_(2014%E2%80%932022)

[–]ActuallyNot 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Oh, for fuck's sake.

Let me go through it slowly for you:

  • I know when I think the Ukraine Crisis started.

  • P-38lightning says the headlines of the left are before the ukraine crisis, as you would know if you looked at the OP.

  • The last headline from the "before Ukraine crisis" dates from April 2021, (as you would know if you could clink on my links)

  • so: I wonder when they thought that the Ukraine Crisis was.

Clear yet?

[–]Questionable 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

No. Because you are still fucking lying.

[–]ActuallyNot 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Which is the lie?

Do you think I don't know when I think the Ukraine crisis started, or do you think that the heading "before the Ukraine crisis" on the OP image doesn't refer to the left hand column, or do you think the link I included to the article with the headline "Ukrainian president’s rule becomes increasingly corrupt, authoritarian" wasn't published on the date that is on the article?

[–]JewsAreOfColor 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

He’s not playing, he really is that dumb. Anyone who supports the Ukraine is literally supporting Nazis.

[–]JewsAreOfColor 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_collaboration_with_Nazi_Germany

Once a Nazi shit hole, always a Nazi shit hole. Europe is finished, and it’s only a matter of time before Russia takes the whole thing over and purges all influence of European terrorism and imperialism before they destroy the whole fucking world.

[–]ActuallyNot 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

And yet somehow they elected a Jewish president.

Go figure.

[–]JewsAreOfColor 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

You do know what a kapo is, right? ZelensKKKy fits that description to a fucking T.

[–]ActuallyNot 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Nope. What's a kapo?

Unless you're suggesting he was was a prisoner in a Nazi camp who was assignedby guards to supervise forced labor or carry out administrative tasks. Which would be a stretch, since he was born in 1978, and the Nazis were defeated in 1945.

[–]JewsAreOfColor 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

There are people younger than me with swastika tattoos.

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They haven't been imprisoned in a Nazi prison camp either.

[–]JewsAreOfColor 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/ukraine-azov-battalion-mariupol-neo-nazis-b2043022.html

zelensKKKy is a puppet of yt g0¥ NATO terrorists.

[–]ActuallyNot 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

NATO terrorists, huh.

How's living in Russia going? Are consumer electronics a bit squeezed?

[–]JewsAreOfColor 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

A self-loathing Holocaust-denying anti-Israel tool of yt g0¥ NATO terrorists and imperialists

[–]ActuallyNot 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

First, Zelensky appropriated the Holocaust by falsely claiming that Putin’s invasion is another genocide.

I think Genocide is fair. Russia is attacking civilians, civillian infrastructure, taking Ukrainian children to Russia, and in liberated towns appear to have engaged in massacres of Ukrainians. For Instance.

The actual choice that Ukrainians, including national heroes like Bandera, made was to collaborate with the Nazis and kill Jews.

Calling Bandera a "national hero" is more than half false. In Ukraine, he's 14% of people have a positive view of him, and 45% a negative view, with 41% neutral or not sure.

[–]JewsAreOfColor 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It’s not genocide when people of color do it to crackers as payback for illegal occupation of land to which people of color are indigenous. Russians are of color. Ukrainians are white and have a long ongoing history of actively supporting Nazism, and anybody who denies it is a Nazi. That makes Russians justified and using force to expel illegal white occupiers of land to which people of color are indigenous. Anybody who opposes people of color using force against white imperialism is literally a Nazi. Asians are people of color. Get the fuck off of our land, you fucking crackers, or we will take over your land and expel you from it if we have to fucking exterminate you in your own fucking concentration camps to do it.

[–]JewsAreOfColor 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Terrorists love their fellow terrorists.

[–]GraviPirate Party 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Heil Ukraine!

[–]1Icemonkey 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Fag.

[–]GraviPirate Party 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

No u, fascist!!!!!!!!!!!

[–]JewsAreOfColor 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Shut up breeder. Stop using the F slur. It makes you sound like a Nigger.

[–]Feldheld 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Some people just cant let go off the media. They loved them so much, gave them all their childish trust, then got betrayed and exploited by them, and now they kinda hate them, too, but they still cant shut up about them.

You can bet your ass they will love the media again as soon as they come visit with a rose begging for forgiveness.

[–]1Icemonkey 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It’s called “the Ukraine”.

[–]Alienhunter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

We have always been at war with Eurasia.

Though I will say what you see on the left is closer to real journalism. That is, it's going through and bringing the dirty laundry of politicians and others to light. The right is simply bald faced war time propoganda.

[–]JewsAreOfColor 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Orwell was a bigot against first born male children.

[–]Alienhunter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Orwell was also a paranoid communist but that doesn't mean he wasn't right.

[–]JewsAreOfColor 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

He was part of the problem by his own standard. He broke it, he bought it.

[–]WoodyWoodPecker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If Trump backs Ukraine it is a Nazi shithole, but if Biden backs Ukraine it is USA 2.0, right?