Ukraine’s “pro-democracy” president has outlawed his opposition, ordered rivals arrested and presided over the disappearance and assassination of dissidents

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[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

This one is for you u/socks

[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

I hesitate to respond, because I don't want to appear to be dismissive. But I do see this hodgepodge old claims as obvious desperate attempts to develop a click-bait article that will get attention. It's a gathering of cherry-picked examples that are not discussed in context, all for the sake of applying as many search terms as possible. It's all whataboutism. Were I to argue one point and its context, one can return with the other arguments. Regarding the restrictions applies in March, those were to limit the politicization of the war by pro-Russian special interests. It's important to do that in times of war, and follows most previous approaches in times of war and states of emergency. The restrictions will be lifted after the 'state of emergency'. Regarding the photos of dead soldiers, these are absolutely necessary to keep a record of casualties, and there are many such images of all of the dead, regardless of nationality. The writers, Max Blumenthal and Esha Krishnaswamy have one goal: get clicks on that article. They are obviously pro-Israel (see thegrayzone.com ) and pro-Russia (see Indian journalists' approaches), while trying to appeal to the 'left' with their geopolitical psyOp articles. Hope this adds to the discussion.

Edit: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Max+Blumenthal+pro-russia&t=h_&ia=web

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

According to Wikipedia, Blumenthal is famously anti-israel to the point he has been called anti-semitic for his anti-zionist stances, although I admit I am skeptical about his connections to RT

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Thanks to your article, I've been reading about him, and see that he's written for a wide range of political subjects; so much so that it's difficult to know what he personally believes. His latest focus is pro-Russian. I've seen pro-Israel articles by him. He's far-left and far-right. Seems he's mainly focused on click-bait, especially since 2018, when the sponsorship of his website (thegrayzone) ended, and he had to fund the website with other methods, perhaps now with Russian funding.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Did some research myself, I think he is clearly far-left in a way that diverges from the mainstream, and is mistaken for rightism. Similar to Glenn Greenwald or Matt Taibbi. That being said, his connection to RT that you pointed out is a little unsettling and does undermine his credibility in my eyes.

[–]Inuma 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

His wife, Anya Parampil, worked for RT. They have a paper together called The Grayzone.

How that undermines credibility in your eyes when "Mainstream media" bans anyone that dissents against power is just baffling.

What do you think of MSNBC banning Glenn Greenwald and only allowing CIA spooks?

How about CNN only allowing on establishment figures?

Finally, what occurs when MSNBC fires people like Phil Donahue, Ed Schultz and Jesse Ventura, for being anti war or covering Bernie Sanders while the rest of the media falls silent on issues pertinent to keeping an informed citizenry?

It's merely mind-boggling that so many people come up with a knee jerk reaction of claiming "pro-Russia" when the media landscape is so corporately controlled they never see anything outside of it.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yeah, I never said anything about trusting the corporate media, you are putting words in my mouth. But RT is just as much one sided propaganda as anything printed by the MSM. I wouldn't trust them to tell me the truth about anything negative concerning Russia, just like I wouldn't trust the MSNBC to tell me anything negative about Ukraine or vaccines. I agree with you on Greenwald, he is one of the few journalists I take seriously

[–]portace 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Blumenthal isn't far left or right, he's mostly pro-truth, anti-imperialist and focused on exposing the media's lies. I would like a link to the pro-Israel article that sockspuppet mentioned.

Here's Blumenthal's articles on Israel:

https://thegrayzone.com/2021/05/24/gaza-slaughter-israel-lobby-antisemitism/

https://thegrayzone.com/2021/05/18/killing-gaza-documentary-cohen-blumenthal-israels-siege/

https://thegrayzone.com/2020/02/04/pro-israel-buttigieg-seth-klarman-iowas-voting-app/

https://thegrayzone.com/2020/06/09/occupation-occupy-israel-us-police/

https://thegrayzone.com/2021/05/22/roger-waters-gabor-mate-israels-apartheid-wars/

https://thegrayzone.com/2019/09/03/pro-israel-sigal-mandelker-fbi-americans-iran/

https://thegrayzone.com/2021/02/07/senate-scrutinize-biden-budget-director-nominee-neera-tandens-foreign-policy-corruption/

Blumenthal definitely isn't pro-Israel, but the exact opposite. Pretty typical of socks, sockspuppets tend to lie to try and discredit the truth.

The Grayzone were also calling out bullshit on Russiagate from the start:

https://thegrayzone.com/2017/12/05/michael-flynn-indictment-trump-collusion-israel-russia/

https://thegrayzone.com/2019/03/25/russiagate-aaron-mate-trump-russia-conspiracy-theory/

[–]AntiSemitCommunist Party 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

It's a literal Jew, what the fuck did you expect

China is more democratic than any Jew-run nation. In fact, the level of democracy outright rose when the number of Jews fell. China is a clear example of the fact that Jews are antithetical to Democracy.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

China is "democratic" and everyone votes for the only candidate on the ballot. And if they don't they're charged with treason and hauled off to the gulag.

[–]AntiSemitCommunist Party 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

It is literally unconstitutional for the CPC to only put exactly 1 candidate on the ballot. There must always be more candidates than seats.

There's a reason why China is not NK or Soviet Union, and that is the exact reason. It's because China has an actually functioning Proletarian Democracy which isn't fucked by the 1-candidate garbage which plagued 70% of AES states.

Also, they can be of any party. I think there was a NKMT party member who was elected to a high position in some big city back then.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Supression of religion and freedom of speech and human rights abuses are also unconstitutional in North Korea and the USSR. But "Nazis" and "fascists" and "bigots" are subhuman scum who don't deserve such rights. In the same way people who don't vote for the right candidate are traitors to the regime and subhuman scum. And China too is full of gulags and torture and coerced contracts to never speak a word about it. Of course if you believe China these are all western lies, but every communist regime makes up the same exact story. They're paradise on earth and don't commit any of the brutality we can literally see on satellite, it's all lies of the western capitalist media.

[–]AntiSemitCommunist Party 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Supression of religion and freedom of speech and human rights abuses are also unconstitutional in North Korea and the USSR. But "Nazis" and "fascists" and "bigots" are subhuman scum who don't deserve such rights.

You literally confused the USSR and NK with the Democrat Party. NK and PRC gives 0 shits about National Socialists, for that matter - they just pretend to be against them for the sole purpose of equating the kikes to Hitler, which is the greatest insult you could use against a kike.

And China too is full of gulags and torture

For kikes and race traitors (Big Bourgeoisie, in the ML Lexicon)? Good.

coerced contracts to never speak a word about it.

US lie. In fact, that lie is so bad that nobody can deny it's a lie. Not even (((Bloomberg))).

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

For kikes and race traitors (Big Bourgeoisie, in the ML Lexicon)? Good.

You're a monster.

US lie. In fact, that lie is so bad that nobody can deny it's a lie. Not even (((Bloomberg))).

Bloomberg probably likes communism himself.

[–]AntiSemitCommunist Party 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You're a monster.

Killing predators and parasites make me a hero, not a monster, kike.

Bloomberg probably likes communism himself.

Go to a tankie community, kike. Not a single tankie likes Bloomberg.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Everyone I don't like=kike, right?

[–]AntiSemitCommunist Party 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Piss off kike. Show nose

[–]portace 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Bloomberg pieces were generally in line with US intelligence as with every international mainstream outlet. For the past couple of months, Bloomberg pieces on China have softened up and have been more focused on truth.

Additionally, ever since the Russian invasion, the US establishment has been softening up on China and asking for their cooperation against Russia. Both Russia and the Chinese see through the pedo tactics now though. Divide and conquer was a tactic that worked in the past against them. China also spends a ton of money to get the pedos to get off their backs.

[–]portace 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Current China's only communist by name.

Gulags (labor camps) were a thing of the past and a self-admitted program.

There's no proof of systemic torture aside from testimonies, which have been proven to be false and/or inconsistent.

There's substantial proof that Western media lies about everything political. There's also substantial proof that most of their reports on China are lies, half-truths or twisted narratives. Scroll down and see irrevocable proof of the Tiananmen lie that the West spread.

Pedo Western media lying is self-admitted. The US government funding fake news and spreading propaganda is self-admitted. They don't even try to hide it.

But the pedophile military astroturfs on here sure enjoy discrediting the truth.

[–]Kuasocto 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

the hatred of jews will make one even start praising a literal commie country

hoo boy, wanna talk about those weird nets next to chinese factories? Like their purpose? How about a certain square in china? No?

[–]AntiSemitCommunist Party 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

How about a certain square in china?

China used to have 2nd amendment and the protestors were not only armed, but also lynched everyone who came in. The June 4th Incident was the VERY REASON why Right to Bear Arms was abolished in the PRC, AND the reason why the PRC started developing non-lethal methods of crowd dispersal.

https://worldaffairs.blog/2019/06/02/tiananmen-square-massacre-facts-fiction-and-propaganda/amp/

weird nets next to chinese factories?

It's called Historical Materialism. Under Marxist-Leninist theory, China must go through a stage of Capitalism before realizing Socialism. This is the basis of Socialist Market Economy - it's literally Capitalism.

[–]Kuasocto 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Under Marxist-Leninist theory...

thanks for telling me I can safely dismiss anything you say.

[–]AntiSemitCommunist Party 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The People's Republic of China is a Marxist-Leninist state. It undergoes Historical Materialism and it renders the Jew impossible. You are just a stupid propagandist who, like the Democrats, the Western Commies, (((Rosa Luxemburg))), and (((that piece of shit Imperialist Heeb Kike Rat Leon Trotsky))), would love nothing more than to associate Marxism-Leninism with Jews - despite Karl Marx's entire ideology being completely driven by his antisemitism, and every ML state beating the crap out of Jews (remember the Anti-(((Cosmopolitan))) Campaign?).

The reason why commies keep failing in the west is because they are trying to have the Jew spearhead what is fundamentally an antisemitic movement. Which is also why the Soviet Union collapsed.

[–]Kuasocto 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Keep telling yourself that.

[–]AntiSemitCommunist Party 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Keep telling yourself the inverse

[–]portace 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Fun fact, details on the Tiananmen Massacre was a lie concocted by the child raping Orwellian mainstream media.

There were still deaths and soldiers did shoot at protesters, but information on the location, circumstances, numbers, and ppl who were killed were all lied about. The whole narrative was twisted to paint "CCP bad", much like most reports on China that the pedo globalists spread.

Case in point:

1990 article https://lawprofessors.typepad.com/china_law_prof_blog/files/munro_who_died_in_beijing_and_why.pdf

https://www.csmonitor.com/2004/0603/p01s04-woap.html

What actually did happen June 3 - 4 is still often confused with myth and misreporting.

CBS News https://www.cbsnews.com/news/there-was-no-tiananmen-square-massacre/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycrOIrORKvw Indian politician at Tiananmen

(13:18 mark) first time he realized foreign media was not free

NY Times in 1989 on a fake news article by HK media: https://web.archive.org/web/20210303122347/https://www.nytimes.com/1989/06/13/world/turmoil-china-tiananmen-crackdown-student-s-account-questioned-major-points.html

Account from tank man photographer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0oV5DwIDZo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSR9zgY1QgU Taiwanese activist asking why they needed to lie when fighting against their enemy

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8057762.stm BBC reporter at Tiananmen

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/wikileaks/8555142/Wikileaks-no-bloodshed-inside-Tiananmen-Square-cables-claim.html wikileaks

https://earnshaw.com/writings/memoirs/tiananmen-story Reuters reporter at Tiananmen

https://www.theweek.co.uk/politics/22535/both-china-and-west-have-distorted-truth-about-tiananmen-square-protests-and-massacre

https://web.archive.org/web/20190607080938/https:/www.japantimes.co.jp/opinion/2019/06/06/commentary/world-commentary/tiananmen-narrative-true/ Japan Times

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUR9sAZYins Jim Mann, LA Times

https://archives.cjr.org/behind_the_news/the_myth_of_tiananmen.php WaPo Reporter

https://www.liberationnews.org/tiananmen-the-massacre-that-wasnt/

https://www.newstatesman.com/world/asia/2019/05/night-lights-went-out-what-really-happened-tiananmen-square

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXJ6gHFME0w Video footage from NBC of angry mobs attacking with rocks, pikes and Molotov cocktails. Soldiers trying to flee the vehicles were slugged. Army later claims entire crew was killed. THEN the army opened up with bullets.

https://thegeopolitics.com/the-geopolitics-behind-the-tiananmen-square-incident/ US/CIA involvement Note: regime change expert James Lilley inserted into China just before Tiananmen was a Skull and Bones member

VIDEO FOOTAGE that MSM doesn't show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDMXV1smwR0 Chinese news shows both angry mobs AND soldiers firing back in retaliation. They report 3000 wounded, 200 killed, 36 students among them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2NysHvJPXg Even more video proof that the Chinese were telling the truth and the Western child rapists were lying.

Note: I haven't mentioned what actually happened at Tiananmen here, but you can figure it out and piece it together if you have a brain and read every link.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So did Putin. Asia has a very collectivist culture so communist dictatorship seems normal to the brainwashed masses.

[–]iamonlyoneman 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

...during a war. Finish the sentence.

[–]Inuma 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The Ukrainian SBU security services have served as the enforcement arm of the officially authorized campaign of repression. With training from the C.I.A. and close coordination with Ukraine’s state-backed neo-Nazi paramilitaries, the SBU has spent the past weeks filling its vast archipelago of torture dungeons with political dissidents.

On the battlefield, meanwhile, the Ukrainian military has engaged in a series of atrocities against captured Russian troops and proudly exhibited its sadistic acts on social media. Here too, the perpetrators of human rights abuses appear to have received approval from the upper echelons of Ukrainian leadership.

While Zelensky spouts bromides about the defense of democracy before worshipful Western audiences, he is using the war as a theater for enacting a blood-drenched purge of political rivals, dissidents and critics.

Why not read the article?

[–]iamonlyoneman 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

so yes, during a war there was an exercise of war powers?

[–]TheJoint 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You mean imprisoning people that are giving assistance to the Russian Army who is currently invading Ukraine?