Where are all the conservative socialists in the West?

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[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (12 children)

You are free to express yourself as you wish as long as the society at large doesn't disapprove of it.

That very black and white thinking will stifle development, the arts, etc etc etc. There is wisdom in mobs, but there is also stupidity in group-think, and the tyranny of the majority can be very ugly.

[–]IamCleaver[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

I disagree. It can get out of control under certain conditions, but usually it doesn't. Humans are naturally tribalistic. We are adapted to fitting into the society we live it.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Something being natural doesn't make it a good thing

[–]IamCleaver[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Good like fighting nature. I prefer to embrace it.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

It's the red pill: the truth is awful.

[–]IamCleaver[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The truth is the truth. It is what it is. We should accept it and act accordingly.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You accept the truth, but your refusal to admit that it's bad is a cope. Still a bluepill.

[–]IamCleaver[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The truth is not good nor bad. It is what it is.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Here you are arguing FOR the SJWs.

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Here you are arguing FOR the SJWs.

Bullshit.

I'm arguing for creativity.
New architecture, new fashion, new literature, new cinema, new music, new anything - not just the arts. New engineering, new science, new medicine, new technology, new code, new ways to communicate. New ways to do every facet of life. Without experimentation and the ability to do new things in new ways we'll never advance.

Pink hair is new. I think it sucks, but only because of the SJW ideology it symbolizes. It was neat before 2013.

Will every new thing succeed? Hell no. But it's no reason to give up - or to lose our FREEDOM to experiment and grow.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Without a strong framework about what's acceptable and what's off-limits, degenerates will turn everything to shit. Case in point: the world we live in. Only the NSDAP ever provided such a framework. Before that, the inertia of history sufficed, and after that well... being rigtheous is now an insult.

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Without a strong framework about what's acceptable and what's off-limits,

Agreed.

degenerates

And counter-degenerates, and counter-counter-degenerates... Also judgementalists. These terms and systems also need fair frameworks.

It might be time to open-develop some frameworks.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Doesn't work, unless you have ethnically monolithic nations. Which... WE DON'T ANYMORE.

What do you think Christian whites, black & brown muslims, hindus, Jews, atheists, satanists and buddhists will agree on? NOTHING. They've made damned sure of that.