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[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (19 children)

Excellent points. These types of articles appear to be aimed at people who don't know and/or don't want to know that they're being manipulated by a class warfare against those who will naturally need more time to adjust to standards that have been traditionally beyond their reach, especially for economic reasons, not to mention crippling social consequences of long-standing class warfare and racism.

[–]Pocks 8 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

Socks stop responding to yourself.

[–]EthnocratIndependent 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

This guy is such a pathetic troll.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

[–]jet199[S] 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (11 children)

Is well known that personal responsibility is one of the main factors which lead to success.

If you take that away from people, telling them all the bad things that happen to them aren't their fault, they have much worse outcomes.

This indeed is class warfare.

The left need to keep black people poor to get their votes.

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

Is well known that personal responsibility is one of the main factors which lead to success.

Is it?

In the USA the main single factor for a successful career is rich parents.

See perhaps HOW MUCH DOES CHILDHOOD POVERTY AFFECT THE LIFE CHANCES OF CHILDREN?*

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Rags to Rags: Poverty and Mobility in the United States

To what extent is this modified by "personal responsibility"?

[–]Canbot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

That is a lie. IQ is the most accurate predictor of lifetime success. The uber rich who can afford to give thier kids do nothing jobs are a tiny minority of people. The vast majority have to be smart enough to do the job they have, or successfully manage the companies or investments they have.

It just so happens that IQ is mostly hereditary so low IQ people are poor and produce low IQ kids who will also be poor.

If wealth were the determining factor then Sports stars kids would all be wealthy on thier own. They are not. Lottery winner's kids would be wealthy, they are not. Most lottery winners die broke.

Having money is temporary. Being wealthy is hereditary.

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

That is a lie.

I'm sometimes mistaken, but I very rarely lie. What is the basis of this accusation?

IQ is the most accurate predictor of lifetime success.

Can you point me to the work on this? I'd be interested in the definition of "lifetime success" and how IQ is separated from confounders such as affluence.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

yeah hereditary is the best predictor of lifetime success

[–]Zapped 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Your comment reminds me of how important parents are to their children, and how less important the schools are. Successful parents usually have a skillset that their children learn, just as parents who scrape by teach their children that skill set.

[–]ActuallyNot 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Sure.

Social class is also a network. You build professional contacts from the people at your school who are your group, and later with the parents of other children who can afford a similar amount as you to send their kids to the same school.

And small but significant things about the class of your friends makes movement out of that class difficult. At a point in my life I was looking for work in a city I'd arrived in with not a lot, but I crashed with an old university mate and his family. Because he was professional class, that influenced the type of jobs I could get, simply because I showed up to interviews in one if his suits.

[–]Zapped 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

People skills are a large part of it, for sure.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Personal responsibility is not at issue here, and indeed everyone under consideration is presumably responsible.

This indeed is class warfare.

Yes

The [GOP & "Libertarians" & corporations & .01%] need to keep black people poor to get their votes.

[–]jet199[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No, it's the main issue.

Not everyone is responsible for all the things that happen to them but those who act as if they do are more successful, happier and more resilient.

Teaching people the opposite mindset, victimhood, makes people's lives worse and takes away their opportunities.

I know the middle class like having cheap servants but the rest of society matters more.

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They intend to keep everyone poor by creating a system where you are either on welfare and completely at the mercy of the government or making so little and working all day so you have no energy or time to be a problem. Anyone more successful they will tax into the ground and justify it by saying it pays for the welfare programs. This makes the other poor people thier enemy and deflects the anger towards them.

[–]Canbot 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

The study wasn't "aimed" at anybody, it's just a scientific study. This leftist claim that science that contradicts thier ideology is somehow racist and therfore invalid is just science denial.

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I would differentiate a scientific study, by scientists, and a propaganda piece by a right wing thing tank.

A right wing think tank could do a scientific study, but it would be published in a scientific journal, and be subject to peer review.

And it wouldn't start "Chief diversity officers (CDOs), who typically advance a leftist agenda, ..." if it's going to be published in any scholarly journal of standing.

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The problem with that these days is that the journals have been corrupted and only print leftist papers. Science is not that which the leftist gatekeepers say is science, it is everything that follows the scientific method. This 100% qualifies. Denying science because of who produced it is still science denial. And your bias is blatant and foolish.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's obviously not a scientific study, and it's obviously for the purpose of pushing propaganda.