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[–]Canbot 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

I used to be very pro gay. Obviously anyone growing up in the west is heavily brainwashed to be pro gay. I'm 37 and when I look back my whole life I was constantly bombarded with pro gay messaging. I was so convinced, so brainwashed, by this messaging that there was absolutely no thought contradictory to this that I would ever entertain. Obviously anyone who was anti gay was that way for all the reasons that I was brainwashed to believe: they were assholes, they were disgusted by homosexual images and lashed out, they thought they were better, they were taught to think this way, etc.

So first off I would like to commend you for asking. I hope you are genuinely interested in considering other opinions with an open mind.

Here is what I have seen to be true that the leftist dominated media and academia have blinded you to. Homosexuality is not something you are born with. The point at which you start to develop your sexuality is not well documented and a lot of that is because doing so would start to degrade the leftist narrative, but that does not mean you can't draw valid theories based on observations. It is clear that brain structures and hormone levels can predispose people to sexual deviancy (not derogatory, simply describing deviance from the norm) but they do NOT determine it. Homosexuality can very easily be shown to strongly correlate with early sexual abuse.

That means things like homosexual porn/sexual stimuli, peer pressure, and cultural influences can all induce homosexuality. Obviously we all get hit with these same influences but are not all gay, so it is not as simple as flipping a switch. All of these influences interact with an unknown amount of factors unique to everyone. But when you look at the aggregate and see a correlation, especially as strong as the one between sexual abuse and homosexuality, this effect is undeniable.

There are a lot of factors that I have identified, and even more that I suspect, which can influence a child and push them into this fetish. Listing them would be tedious. But it would be a very useful scientific endeavor to identify them, test them, and learn. None of that is possible because of the political climate and viciously defended leftist dogmas within academia and the scientific community. And it is this that makes leftists and homosexuals bad. It is not the having of a fetish, but the defense of that fetish; the indoctrination of others, the corruption of children, the corruption of our society.

In two decades we went from "what happens in my bedroom is my business" to a having gay pride parades where men expose themselves to the crowds where leftists bring their children. Mind you, I am very pro nudity; I wish we lived in a society where nudity was acceptable. But the nudity of the gay community is not innocent, it is always sexualized. They wear gimp suits and perform all manner of sexual simulations. It's always focused on sexual desires, lust, and hedonism.

And in contradiction to the leftist narrative homosexuality is not normal or natural. We understand very well why sexuality exists, and some contrived argument about animals being gay does not challenge that understanding. Sociological studies proved conclusively that the nuclear family is extremely important to a strong country, good mental health, high IQs, productivity, lifetime achievement. Destroying the nuclear family on a large scale is not without consequences.

Studies have shown that sexual fetishes (homosexuality is a type of fetish) can increase when you indulge in them. This is because your normal sexual functions are being used to give you dopamine hits while performing deviant behavior and that dopamine hit then reinforces the deviant behavior. If you eat shit while masturbating you will develop a taste for shit. But that does not mean it is normal. It is bad for you.

What all of this (and a lot more I wont get into) comes down to is that homosexuals corrupt children, changing their lives forever for the worse. They take grandchildren away from parents, and pull kids into extremely detrimental, drug riddled unfulfilling lives. They corrupt science, academia and our society. It IS sexual degeneracy, societal degeneracy, and intellectual degeneracy. We live in the new dark ages in large part due to homosexuals, and it all leads to even worse things like trans propaganda. The homosexual/trans agenda is real and it is extremely harmful.

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

And in contradiction to the leftist narrative homosexuality is not normal or natural.

How is it not natural? Are these people supernatural?

We understand very well why sexuality exists, and some contrived argument about animals being gay does not challenge that understanding.

It's not that contrived though. It shows that it is natural.

Sociological studies proved conclusively that the nuclear family is extremely important to a strong country, good mental health, high IQs, productivity, lifetime achievement.

This is wrong. There's a strong consensus in sociological research that gay parents are not disadvantaging in mental heath, IQ, productivity or lifetime achievement.

Destroying the nuclear family on a large scale is not without consequences.

Yeah it is.

Studies have shown that sexual fetishes (homosexuality is a type of fetish) can increase when you indulge in them.

Homosexuality is not a type of fetishism.

Symptoms of Fetishistic Disorder According to the DSM-5, there are three criterion for Fetishistic Disorder, and four specifiers that can be applied:

A. Over a six month period, the individual has experienced sexual urges focused on a non-genital body part, or inanimate object, or other stimulus, and has acted out urges, fantasies, or behaviors.

B. The fantasies, urges, or behaviors cause distress, or impairment in functioning.

C. The Fetishistic object is not an article of clothing employed in cross dressing, or a sexual stimulation device, such as a vibrator.

[–]JimBob83 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

They aren't supernatural they're just mistakes of nature, like autism or downs, cancer or arthritis. Our greatest biological imperative is to produce offspring and these individuals are born with a disability that makes breeding much more unlikely.

[–]jet199 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

That assumes that humans can only pass on their genes by reproducing themselves.

The truth is humans are group animals and if you support your family and the children in it that's as good as having kids yourself.

[–]mahavishnunj 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

They aren't supernatural they're just mistakes of nature, like autism or downs

i think we have an expert here who is suffering from the affliction and speaks from personal experience.

[–]ActuallyNot 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Is arthritis not natural?

Our greatest biological imperative is to produce offspring

Human society and culture has a few more dimensions than that.

Many people are creative without being procreative. And the fact that later siblings are more likely to be gay implies that there's a biological advantage to it, given a natural environment.