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[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (52 children)

The HIJACKINGS DID NOT HAPPEN.

Yeah. They did. The planes were hijacked. It's why you're not allowed a box-cutter on a plane now, remember?

The planes were switched via drones.

Switched for what?

Search ARCGIS data points on this.

I find my google results to be more pro-scientific, because of my evidence based search history. Why don't you assume I won't find any evidence for your tenuous conspiracy theory, and link me to your best evidence yourself?

They followed the operation Northwoods script.

They assassinated Cuban immigrants, sunk boats of Cuban refugees, shot down hijacking planes, blew up a U.S. ship, and/or orchestrated violent terrorism in U.S. cities?

No they didn't. They flew some planes into some buildings.

Flight 175 wasn't even suppose to depart until te night time.

Flight 175 was scheduled to depart at 08:00 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Airlines_Flight_175#Boarding

[–]Jesus 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

Okay, keep shilling the official Zionist Straussian myth of 9/11 shabbos goy by sourcing Zionist owned wikipedia and the Zionist controlled commission report. Israel thanks you.

Here's the true info on the flights and 9/11:

https://old.reddit.com/r/911truth/comments/mvwbu9/claircomatt_phone_records_for_flight_11_77_prove/

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Well if someone posted it to reddit, it must be true.

[–]Jesus 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Shill Screw off. There are primary sources there. I'm done wasting my time with someone who parrots Trump.

[–]Jesus 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (11 children)

Remember, the official flight paths are based off RADES 84 and FAA radar data. Researchers like "Woody Box" have uncovered that the FAA was tracking the drone flights (not on purpose) while the airlines were tracking the real registered aircraft. So, the official flight paths are the paths the drones took. There's no need for them to land somewhere and substitute with the real plane. The drones and real aircraft each took off from the same airports, respectively (except possibly for Flight 11), just at different times. e.g. United 175 and drone "United 175" both took off from Logan International, and United 93 and "United 93" both took off from Newark International. The real, registered aircraft were flying under different flight numbers, however. The live-fly hijack exercises and war games on 9/11, including the insertion of false blips, planes turning off their transponders, etc. allowed the conspirators to trick FAA controllers into believing that planes were hijacked. For example, United 175 actually took off at 8:23 under the call sign "United 177", which was later reported hijacked by regional manager Marcus Arroyo at 9:25 a.m. The real United 177 was only scheduled to depart in the evening of September 11th, but airline officials later claimed that the plane was held at the gate, which is of course not believable, because passengers wouldn't board that flight until the evening. What I think happened was that the plane flying as "United 177" turned off its transponder and merged with another track before crossing into the next sector and becoming "Delta 89" at 9:27. To the controller working "United 177", it probably looked like the flight had dropped off radar, and someone up the chain reported this as a hijack – the report making its way to Arroyo, and this was unusually quick, because Flight 11's controller didn't realize that it was hijacked for about 10 minutes, and the decision loop around that aircraft moved much slower. The aircraft was doing this as part of a sanctioned live-fly hijack drill ran by NORAD, and it enabled the 9/11 attacks to occur. The strongest evidence for drones being used, are IMO the ACARS messages from UAL dispatchers to the hijacked United flights. There were 18 ACARS uplinks received by United 93 after 10:03 (the official crash time). A crashed plane cannot receive uplinks from a ground station, because it wouldn't be able to perform the preceding "handshake", which is a synchronization process between sender and receiver to enable and optimize the transmission of the actual message. The researcher "Woody Box" explains: [a] sent ULBLK (uplink) implies a successful handshake; a successful handshake implies a good VHF connection; a good VHF connection implies that the plane is within line-of sight or at least almost line-of sight of the ground station; and a line-of-sight condition implies that the plane is airborne (exception: the plane is grounded at the airport where the sender is located – but this was not the case for United 93 at 10:11). As to why the aircraft stopped receiving ACARS uplinks after 10:12, nine minutes after its supposed downing in Shanksville – perhaps the aircraft had landed somewhere by then (given the plane's low altitude at that point, as suggested by David Knerr in his FBI interview) and the pilot pulled the circuit breaker. The ACARS messages to UA 93 show that it was in the vicinity of Champaign, Illinois ("GL CMI" in print-out) at 10:10, 7 minutes after its alleged crash. Interestingly, there are two airports near Champaign, Illinois: Willard Airport (operated by University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign), and Frasca Field, a small, privately-owned airport that is public access. However, I'm not a pilot guy at all, but it seems Frasca's two runways are too short (at 4000') to accommodate a landing 757-200, which I understand needs at least 8000' of runway even for low landing weights. Now if these planes were upgraded with these cell transponders, would this illustrate that maybe the planes followed the Northwoods script? Scenario #8 in Northwoods was definitely an inspiration for how the attacks unfolded. My thinking goes like this: Planes still airborne past their supposed crash times → Flights were duplicated → (Indirect) Drones struck the Towers and Pentagon → only a State has the resources to co-ordinate an operation with that implied level of complexity and complicity (elements within NORAD, the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the national security state in general...etc.) → 9/11 was a false flag.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

What killed the passengers and crew of the real planes?

[–]Jesus 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

A great amount of the crew happened to be intel agents or connected with high up intelligence officials. Someone did a probability of this and you had a better chance of being struck by lighting two times over. Also, it was likely they were flown under different numbers and the point I'm making is that flight data shows that they were flying well after UA93 allegedly crashed into that field and buried itself and after the two planes hit the facades of the towers.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

A great amount of the crew happened to be intel agents or connected with high up intelligence officials.

How many is this "great amount"?

What was the names of these, and what was the connection with which "high-up intelligence officials" in each case?

And which ones were "intel" agents?

How do you know that they were intel agents?

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

You are a timesuck.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You've made some specific claims, that I strongly suspect you have no evidence for whatsoever.

If you do, fine, show me.

If you don't, I think that that which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Do your own research. Don't be lazy. Follow the crumbs. It's not a secret and there's no shortage of people on SaidIt that are awake to the many corrupt levers of power and their history that is obfuscated from the general populace.

Ask your specific questions and you'll get specific answers if they're available. Not knowing something is just as important as knowing something. Some things are unknowable and those who pretend to know can be just as dangerous as liars.

General vague skepticism is just as moot as general vague dismissals. I won't be snared into wasting energy with timesucks.

[–]Jesus 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Who knows if thry even were Killed or were ghosted by a drone and under a different tail number. The point I'm making is the planes were still in Flight and nowhere near where the drones were.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The point I'm making is the planes were still in Flight and nowhere near where the drones were.

As you know, flights paths are all recorded.

Why don't you link me to the recorded location of those flights at the time they were striking the buildings, because I'm having serious problems believing what you're saying.

You claim that there are drones large enough to look like a plane. Show me an example of one on the ground or for sale.

You claim that they can be flown around amongst aircraft, so either air traffic control knows about them, or would be investigating them for violating ATC spaces. Show me when those drones landed at the airport you claim they took off from, according to air traffic control records.

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

They'll never come clean about it so we'll never know.

Maybe after they admit that the Holocaust is a HUGE exaggeration, then they'll admit they orchestrated 9/11.

Don't hold your breath. Or better yet, do.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

They'll never come clean about it so we'll never know.

And the fact that they died when the plane that they were in hit the building is not as plausible as someone is keeping them hidden somewhere for purposes that somehow advance Zionists' agenda?

Maybe after they admit that the Holocaust is a HUGE exaggeration

There were a lot of bodies found. How HUGE an exaggeration are we talking here?

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

And the fact that they died when the plane that they were in hit the building is not as plausible as someone is keeping them hidden somewhere for purposes that somehow advance Zionists' agenda?

You don't know that. Proof?

There were a lot of bodies found. How HUGE an exaggeration are we talking here?

The magical made up number of 6 million existed long before WWII in the 1800s. 6 million people would literally have been impossible to gas and/or burn - especially in a war with shortages of fuel and food that also impacted the German guards and soldiers. The "death camps" were actually slave labour camps and almost 200,000 people (Jews, other races, communists, socialists, anarchists, pacifists, artists, etc) died of natural causes, typhoid, starvation, and probably some abuse or murders here or there. That's the well documented number.

There are countless other inconsistencies, exaggerations, and outright lies surrounding the Holocaust that become glaringly obvious if you can get past the fear of being labeled an "anti-Semite" for just looking into it.

Watch "Spinning Squirrel" on BitChute for more. Don't talk to me until after you do.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (34 children)

Zionist Jews thank you for your belief in their Straussian myth. Again, read Ellias Davidsson, David Ray Griffin, everyone of hos books, and Graeme MacQueen who effectively shows that the consoirators had a pre-fabricated script in place to blame the anthrax attacks on the Saudis, white supremacists, Al Qeada and Iraq. It's funny that the Jew Donald Kagan only a day after 9/11 mentioned that Al Qeada wheeled Anthrax and could use it on American citizens. Of course, MacQueen proves that it wasn't muslims but inteligence assets possibly linked to Mossad who did these attacks as well as 9/11. Not some stupid muslims who couldn't even fly single cesa engine planes.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (33 children)

On ya, mate.

who effectively shows that the consoirators had a pre-fabricated script in place to blame the anthrax attacks on the Saudis, white supremacists, Al Qeada and Iraq.

Not sure what his evidence was, nor how white supremacists and Iraq are on the same side of any conflict. But 9/11 wasn't an anthrax attack. There were some hijacked planes that were flown into buildings.

Not some stupid muslims who couldn't even fly single cesa engine planes.

The hijackers were known by:

1) Passengers and crew aboard the flights provided information about the hijackers while the hijacking was in progress.

and

2) From luggage and effects left behind, or, in one case, that didn't make the connecting flight.

Their identities isn't a guess. And the majority of them were Saudis.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (31 children)

You are so far behind in the details I cannot help you.

Again, PICK UP THE BOOK about the Anthrax attacks by Graeme MacQueen. The Anthrax attacks were directly linked to the 9/11 attacks and simulated HIJACKERS, which were pre-fabricated and pre-written into the script but were scrapped when neocons and other perps nearly outed themselves. Read the damn book.

THERE WAS NO HIJACKINGS period.

Other than possibly switching the transponder in midair but this doesn't account for the ghosting of Flight 177, which proves, the opposite. That drones were used.

Now screw off shill and go blame 9/11 on muslims somewhere else. I know who did 9/11 and it wasn't your dumb Saudi script that Zionist Haredi mafia Trump likes to bring up.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (30 children)

THERE WAS NO HIJACKINGS period.

Yeah there was. People on the flights identified that hijackers, and then the planes were flown into buildings.

Other than possibly switching the transponder in midair but this doesn't account for the ghosting of Flight 177, which proves, the opposite. That drones were used.

And these drones that look exactly like older planes, are manufactured where? Can you show me some examples of other drones from this factory? Or where the factory is?

Or are you saying that they were a bespoke 3D printing job, that looked really really good?

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (29 children)

People on the flights identified that hijackers, and then the planes were flown into buildings.

They're all allegedly dead and unverified. Even during the recordings (perhaps pre-recorded), some warned that it's a hoax. Further, there's conflicting stories about what actually took place on those planes.

that look exactly like older planes

Actually there's a lot of controversy about their appearance as they do NOT look exactly like the planes they're supposed to represent, including the paint jobs and bulge on the bottom.

You are being argumentative for the sake of it. Why not leave this forum and go back where you came from?

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (28 children)

They're all allegedly dead and unverified.

So why have a fake plane if you're just going to kill everyone on the real one? Wouldn't it be simpler and cheaper just to use the real one.

Even during the recordings (perhaps pre-recorded), some warned that it's a hoax.

Link please.

including the paint jobs and bulge on the bottom.

Okay, you're claiming the fuselage was modified on the bottom? That's a big job mate. You're going to have to come up with where it was done before you're going to pick up anything approaching plausibility.

You are being argumentative for the sake of it.

There's a lot deep conspiracy theory bullshit posted here as if its plausible. When most people would say that it's not even rational.

Why not leave this forum and go back where you came from?

Do common, rational points of view offend you?

Perhaps a public forum isn't the place for you. One of the things about them is you'll get a variety of people discussing things.

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (27 children)

So why have a fake plane if you're just going to kill everyone on the real one? Wouldn't it be simpler and cheaper just to use the real one.

I don't pretend to have all the information, including the thoughts and reasoning of the criminal minds. There is a lot of speculation about the passengers, if they even existed, etc.

Inversely: So why NOT have a fake plane? The drone would be sure not to have human error or last minute cowardice from carrying out their evil intentions.

Also related: There is only one single private airport in North America (perhaps the world) with very special privileges and circumstances. It happens to be the one that at least 2 "hijacked" planes conveniently flew directly over. I forget the actual details but perhaps /u/Jesus can recall what my recollections are mangling.

Even during the recordings (perhaps pre-recorded), some warned that it's a hoax.

Link please.

Get off your ass and do your own research. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=9%2F11+hijacked+plane+phone+call+hoax

Okay, you're claiming the fuselage was modified on the bottom? That's a big job mate. You're going to have to come up with where it was done before you're going to pick up anything approaching plausibility.

I'm not claiming it. Many folks who are experts are. I don't have to prove anything to you. Do your own research.

There's a lot deep conspiracy theory bullshit posted here as if its plausible.

These folks know MUCH MORE than most plebs do, including you, who just consume the bullshit corporate media that is shoved down their throats. The obesity crisis is a physical reflection and illustrative of the mental health and knowledgeable awareness of most of the sheeple citizenry.

When you actually investigate deeper you'll find most of what's purported on the surface is bullshit. Our world under authority is fundamentally structured on rigged systems and lies so the masses don't organize and revolt at their unfair exploitation.

Do common, rational points of view offend you?

Most common views are not based in rationality. I don't give nor take offense. I don't tolerate fools, timesucks, or inauthenticity. If you are seriously here to learn by challenging your worldview then I can applaud that and hope your worldview paradigm shift isn't too painful. But you don't come across as very genuine being a perpetual skeptic simply repeating status quo corporate media nonsense.

Perhaps a public forum isn't the place for you.

You are a Saiditter for 1 month. I've been here over 2.5 years. You don't know me. You seem like a disinfo shill and timesuck with aims to demotivate. You are not new or unique, nor do you phase me in the least. 95% of my responses are for those who read these discussions. If you get anything out of this then great.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (26 children)

I don't pretend to have all the information, including the thoughts and reasoning of the criminal minds. There is a lot of speculation about the passengers, if they even existed, etc.

If you don't pretend to have all the information, one what basis do you pretend to know that the planes weren't hijacked?

Inversely: So why NOT have a fake plane?

Because the technology would have to be bespoke, and therefore expensive, and full of errors. (Unless you've got the details of the testing and development of the technolgoy.

Because there's no reason to have a fake plane.

Because getting a fake plane to the airport would require massive falsification of records.

The drone would be sure not to have human error or last minute cowardice from carrying out their evil intentions.

The cost effectiveness of a box-cutter and using an existing plane is the key. A box cutter is only about a buck. A plane is over a hundred million bucks.

Also related: There is only one single private airport in North America (perhaps the world) with very special privileges and circumstances.

Nope. There's over 4000: https://blog.privatefly.com/10-top-private-jet-airports-in-the-usa

It happens to be the one that at least 2 "hijacked" planes conveniently flew directly over.

They probably flew over a house too. And a tree. Flying over things doesn't prevent hijacking.

Get off your ass and do your own research.

This from the person who just claimed that there's only one private airport in north america.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=9%2F11+hijacked+plane+phone+call+hoax

Nothing there about people involved warning that it was a hoax. Are you sure you're not misremembering that?

I'm not claiming it.

Good. We agree on that point then.

Many folks who are experts are.

So long as we both agree that these experts are wrong, then I don't care whether we disagree that these experts exist.

I don't have to prove anything to you. Do your own research.

Fine. Let me tell you what the results of that research is: The planes were Hijacked by mostly Saudis, and flown into buildings.

Done.

These folks know MUCH MORE than most plebs do, including you

No, they're just anomaly hunting, and reaching absolutely implausible explanations.

You are a Saiditter for 1 month. I've been here over 2.5 years.

Nevertheless, if you're not interested in the views of public people, I don't think you're best in a public forum.

You are not new or unique, nor do you phase me in the least.

And yet you've asked me to leave the forum. If you're not phased in the least why would you prefer if I didn't post here?

[–]RightousBob 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

Nobody cares what you think. But I'll give you credit for being persistent. Just doin your job eh, mate?

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

Wasn't an anomaly. They were drones and I explain this in the switched tail number and UA93 flying well after its alleged crash which Pilots at pilotsfor9/11 truth have proven.

Also, Zionists rigged the towers with explosives and blew them to smithereens to start the Yinon war on terror. It wasn't Saudis, muslims or Catholic Jesuits... Zionists in high positions of power orchestrated 9/11 and then situated themselves into all the key positions to cover it up. Trump was one player in this conspiracy.

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

You're repeating "official narrative" propaganda nonsense.

You would do well to learn from Jesus.

Fuck the religious shit but he's precisely on target for everything else.

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

my google results

LOL.

[–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

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