BLM Insurrectionist Screams 'I Can't Wait Until Black People Lynch White People'

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[–]GConly 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Good. People should mention the true arguments

Yes but it's not correct. Every attempt to show bias in the testing has failed.

Can you link me to one of the studies based on these less culturally biased tests?

Look up Ravens progressive matrices.

So since black Americans are still substantially an underclass, you would expect their IQ to catch up with the improved nutrition and better childhood health that comes with rising out of poverty.

No.

As I have pointed out to you before, there's no evidence that western poverty, with its vaccinations, free education and adequate all round nutrition causes lower IQ than in western rich families.

In fact every study into this possibility that looked at adults failed to find any evidence of it at all. It's called the Scarr Rowe effect.

Which you don't seem to be processing.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Look up Ravens progressive matrices.

The ones that people with Autism do better than people without Autism on?

They do have specialised intelligence, but it's a leap to say that they're more intelligent. Or that they're not culturally different, in that they respond to culture differently.

As I have pointed out to you before, there's no evidence that western poverty, with its vaccinations, free education and adequate all round nutrition causes lower IQ than in western rich families.

I though you said that was the cause of the increase in IQ of 3 point per decade.

What do you think is the cause of that?

Why don't you think that people who haven't been through that yet won't catch up?

It's called the Scarr Rowe effect.

No that's not about low socio-economic status being related to low IQ, it's about the heritability of intelligence being decreased in low socio-economic demographic groups.

Which you don't seem to be processing.

There's no good evidence for a difference in intelligence between races. And given that the genetic diversity in Humans inside a

Africa is so much greater than that outside, it beggars belief that you would find the largest difference outside Africa.

It is know that evolution is much more near the tropics than the poles, and it is known that when modern humans left Africa, they back bred with Neanderthals, picking up white skin, straight hair, and plausibly the larger brain case of that more primitive group.

[–]GConly 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I though you said that was the cause of the increase in IQ of 3 point per decade.

That increase applied across also income groups. A rising tide raised all boats.

No that's not about low socio-economic status being related to low IQ, it's about the heritability of intelligence being decreased in low socio-economic demographic groups.

Yes and every study failed to show lower SES correlated to lower heritability in adults.

There's no good evidence for a difference in intelligence between races.

You mean other than consistently getting a different average score, even when adopted? Other than having different size brains, and differ structure, and differing frequencies in genes we know correlate to intelligence?

And the fact we know damn well selective pressure affects intelligence just as much as any other genetically determined trait.

The ones that people with Autism do better than people without Autism on?

I'm assuming you that misunderstanding got from this (or similar).

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2006/02/case-mistaken-iq

Healthy children and adults performed similarly on both the Wechsler and the Raven test. But speaking autistics scored up to 30 percentile points higher on the Raven test than the Wechsler test,

The simple version: non autistic get the same in both kinds of tests. Autistic got much higher on the TPM than the standard, they didn't score higher overall. The standard tests have a lot of verbal stuff in it they find hard to process, but they are better than average at visual spatial and pattern recognition.

The Level and Nature of Autistic Intelligence.)

The autistic adults' Raven's Progressive Matrices scores (M = 83.30 percentile, SD = 19.26) were, on average, more than 30 percentile points higher than their WAIS-III scores (M = 50.38 percentile, SD = 30.57; prep= . 986, d = 1.29).

In contrast, the nonautistic adults’ Raven’s Progressive Matrices scores (M = 81.64 percentile, SD = 16.78) and WAIS-III scores (M = 74.80 percentile, SD = 16.57) did not differ significantly (prep = .852, d = 0.41).

I have HF Asperger's, BTW. I score about 10 points higher on my visual spatial than my verbal because excess testosterone in utero shunted some of my neuro development into VS and pattern recognition instead of verbal/social. There's a reason engineering and physics classes are full of HF Asperger's with minimal social skill and crappy spelling.

Did you actually think autistic people got higher scores than average?