Liberals Worried That Without Cancel Culture They'd Actually Have To Defend Their Ideas

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[–][deleted] 22 insightful - 3 fun22 insightful - 2 fun23 insightful - 3 fun -  (10 children)

Their ideas are indefensible. The only way the left wins any argument is censorship. If they can't censor, they jump ship. If they engage in good faith debate, they are eventually converted. It's why every uncensored space becomes over time increasingly right wing until there are no other voices left willing to debate. Doesn't mean they'll all end up third position, but they'll at least end up realizing 3 key things; all stemming from biology.

  • Forced diversity makes for unstable shitty societies
  • Ethnic groups are like dog breeds. On average some can jump higher than others, some are smarter than others, and some are more aggressive. If you breed them all into a supermutt you won't end up with a better world.
  • Men and women are not the same

If someone doesn't embrace some third position politics at the very least they begin to view freedom of association with the same importance the US founders did. This is the bane of leftism, which is to force everyone into the same area and then force them to all be deferential to the most defective individuals in the lot. After all, "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need". The left realizes many of these people are defective (by their definition of success), at least subconsciously, but can not accept that there are biological reasons. They reject nature. Having rejected biology, all that is left as an answer is every ism (bigotry/racism/etc) you can shake a stick at.

That is not to say 'isms can't and don't exist, they certainly do - just that in a perfect egalitarian society you have vastly unequal outcomes between groups and genders because all humans are not the same. If you are to have a multicultural society, everyone must be equal under the law - but government interference should end there.

As an example, "There aren't as many women in STEM! Sexism"... No, most women aren't that interested in technical or mechanical things, they are more social. "There aren't as many black doctors! Racism"... No, in spite of many advantages blacks have in pursing that education like SAT bonus points based on race and affirmative action placement, most aren't mentally equipped to be doctors, and aren't interested often even when they are.

[–]liberty_primer 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

I'm a half Jew. The other half is anglo Germanic.

This makes me, by any coherent genetic definition, White ... at least as White as the average Italian is. However, a lot of folks don't see it that way. Whatever, that's cool.

I actually support your ability to freely choose not to associate with me. Hell if you want to secede and make your own ethnostate that excludes me that's fine. Just don't outright evict me from where I'm at and we good.

If you put in "freedom of association" terms, I think that could go a long way to convincing normies to give you some space. If you put it in imperialistic "take over everything" terms, that's gonna turn a lot of general public off because ... most people don't want to see all non Whites (and in my case ... even some Whites) thrown out of the only nation/home they've known.

[–]MuricaPersonified 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

The problem with Ashkenazis with similar ancestry to you is they will shapeshift back and forth from white and jew, depending on what's most convenient for them at the time. The reason I think anyone with a shred of jewish blood should be separated is chiefly because of their inherently nepotistic social structure and that they will employ subterfuge and sow discord to keep their cover.

[–]liberty_primer 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

A.) Ashkenazi Jews are basically the same as southern Italians and Greeks on a genetic level. Shall we ban southern meds while we’re at it?

B.) Well over half of American Jews intermarry. 77% for Jews that aren’t religious. If they were that inclined toward nepotism and in group preference, that wouldnt happen. It may have been the case in the past, but it is not now.

C.) By all means separate yourself out, but don’t act like you have any legitimate claim on how I live my life. I didn’t do anything to you.

D.) I’m not shapeshifting into anything. I don’t bullshit anyone into thinking I’m anything I’m not.

[–]MuricaPersonified 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Italians aren't honkeys, and I have Greek family that is insufferable, so sure.

They're don't have to be religious to support the zionist agendas; they're actually some of the worst SJWs.

Depends on what you support. If you advocate for policies that affect my rights, then that is a hypocritical statement. Live and let live was a failed experiment.

Ok, glad to hear that you don't play that card.

[–]liberty_primer 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I literally support your right to start an ethnostate as long as you minimize the number of people you displace.

Yes. It’s okay to exclude me.

So no, I’m not a threat to your rights.

[–]Dragonerne 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

What if we want our ethnostate, the USA, to be an ethnostate as the founders intended it to be.

Why would we give up our ethnostate, the USA?

[–]liberty_primer 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Nah. That would displace me a lot of other people. I’d oppose that and fight you on it.

If you’re gonna go with “birthright” arguments then you don’t have an ethical leg to stand on in the USA. The USA isn’t some ethnic homeland. It was stolen through conquest.

I also care about individual freedom of choice. I don’t care about mega corporate or ethic empires existing. Hell, big empires shouldn’t be a thing at all. Empire was a mistake.

[–]Dragonerne 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Right. This means you're taking part in the genocide of whites. The US was founded by whites and for whites. This only changed in 1965 with the promise that it would not change the mark up of the demographics.
If you're non-white, then you're in the US and residing in the US as a conqueror and colonizer and actively fighting whites who does not want to be colonized. In this sense, you're no different than those who slaughtered the indians. We might be descendants of colonizers but you are part of the colonizing and the ongoing genocide.

If you're fighting us if we resist the colonization of our lands, then you are a conqueror. However you feel justified in this is up to you, but I feel justified in defending myself and my own.

[–]liberty_primer 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Fair enough. That makes us enemies then. Just know, I’d be more than happy to live and let live.

You’re creating the issue, not me.

PS: Genocide involves actually actively killing people. If the colonists left the Amerindians alone or attempted to coexist with them, it wouldn’t have been genocide.