Liberals Worried That Without Cancel Culture They'd Actually Have To Defend Their Ideas

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[–]liberty_primer 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

I'm a half Jew. The other half is anglo Germanic.

This makes me, by any coherent genetic definition, White ... at least as White as the average Italian is. However, a lot of folks don't see it that way. Whatever, that's cool.

I actually support your ability to freely choose not to associate with me. Hell if you want to secede and make your own ethnostate that excludes me that's fine. Just don't outright evict me from where I'm at and we good.

If you put in "freedom of association" terms, I think that could go a long way to convincing normies to give you some space. If you put it in imperialistic "take over everything" terms, that's gonna turn a lot of general public off because ... most people don't want to see all non Whites (and in my case ... even some Whites) thrown out of the only nation/home they've known.

[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I'd say the only hope of things not ending in oceans of blood is somehow returning to mainstream acceptance of ethnic biodiversity and sexual dimorphism as it relates to the brain and emotions. Until that occurs we have no foundation for a just society; as every time a 70 IQ inbred goat herder or housewife from the third world isn't successful in the West, it must be because those awful ists' and isms were holding them back. This flies in the face of all common sense, but it's still accepted dogma. No sane society would willingly accept such people to begin with, because they have nothing to offer.

I don't see that happening unfortunately / we're too far down the rabbit hole of insanity and hubris. Also, it's not like you can deport these people once they're here. In the US currently, only white, jewish, and asian men are net tax contributors. Everyone else is a tax burden. The average black american costs the country upwards of 700k over their lifetime. Offering them 500k to renounce citizenship and move elsewhere would result in savings. Even if we got freedom of association back - I have no desire to subsidize dysgenic breeding.

[–]liberty_primer 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I wish it were politically possible to offer such a deal. If even half took it, we’d be better off.

I think they would better off too actually. I’m not one of those people that fully buy into the notion that black people cant create functional societies at all. Nigeria, for example, has actually done decently well for themselves. Not great, but not an unmitigated disaster ... at least not most of the time. Don’t get me wrong, I think the lower IQ is at least partly genetic for blacks, but not everything they touch turns to shit. Especially when they form nuclear family units and don’t have another race to blame their problems on.

The main reason I prefer to live apart is that I just can’t see how black people wouldn’t resent a nation that once enslaved them, especially with a media that seems hell bent on stoking this resentment. At this point, I just don’t want to deal with it. I don’t want them forcibly deported, but I’m more than happy to incentivize them to leave of their own free will.

Too bad it’s probably not politically possible.

Also: Spics are based to me. I wanna keep them. We can just live apart if need be in my anarcho “no voice free exit” utopian pipe dream.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Wow. Honestly this is much higher iq conversation than the ones on voat...

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I wish it were politically possible to offer such a deal. If even half took it, we’d be better off.

Stuff could be organized privately if it's not popular enough to use gov't funds to do it yet.

[–]MuricaPersonified 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Have you ever seen how hard it is for actually productive people to emigrate to the US? It takes tens of thousands of dollars, notarized witnesses and sponsors, detailed background checks, work history and proof of worth; years of wading through a mire of bureaucracy to get your citizenship- and that's if you're lucky.

It's fucking insulting to those people how we will import low IQ savages by full boats and planes who have no traceable identity, low IQ, lack of skill, and completely incompatible cultures, all willy-nilly with no oversight.

[–]MuricaPersonified 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

The problem with Ashkenazis with similar ancestry to you is they will shapeshift back and forth from white and jew, depending on what's most convenient for them at the time. The reason I think anyone with a shred of jewish blood should be separated is chiefly because of their inherently nepotistic social structure and that they will employ subterfuge and sow discord to keep their cover.

[–]liberty_primer 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

A.) Ashkenazi Jews are basically the same as southern Italians and Greeks on a genetic level. Shall we ban southern meds while we’re at it?

B.) Well over half of American Jews intermarry. 77% for Jews that aren’t religious. If they were that inclined toward nepotism and in group preference, that wouldnt happen. It may have been the case in the past, but it is not now.

C.) By all means separate yourself out, but don’t act like you have any legitimate claim on how I live my life. I didn’t do anything to you.

D.) I’m not shapeshifting into anything. I don’t bullshit anyone into thinking I’m anything I’m not.

[–]MuricaPersonified 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Italians aren't honkeys, and I have Greek family that is insufferable, so sure.

They're don't have to be religious to support the zionist agendas; they're actually some of the worst SJWs.

Depends on what you support. If you advocate for policies that affect my rights, then that is a hypocritical statement. Live and let live was a failed experiment.

Ok, glad to hear that you don't play that card.

[–]liberty_primer 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I literally support your right to start an ethnostate as long as you minimize the number of people you displace.

Yes. It’s okay to exclude me.

So no, I’m not a threat to your rights.

[–]Dragonerne 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

What if we want our ethnostate, the USA, to be an ethnostate as the founders intended it to be.

Why would we give up our ethnostate, the USA?

[–]liberty_primer 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Nah. That would displace me a lot of other people. I’d oppose that and fight you on it.

If you’re gonna go with “birthright” arguments then you don’t have an ethical leg to stand on in the USA. The USA isn’t some ethnic homeland. It was stolen through conquest.

I also care about individual freedom of choice. I don’t care about mega corporate or ethic empires existing. Hell, big empires shouldn’t be a thing at all. Empire was a mistake.

[–]Dragonerne 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Right. This means you're taking part in the genocide of whites. The US was founded by whites and for whites. This only changed in 1965 with the promise that it would not change the mark up of the demographics.
If you're non-white, then you're in the US and residing in the US as a conqueror and colonizer and actively fighting whites who does not want to be colonized. In this sense, you're no different than those who slaughtered the indians. We might be descendants of colonizers but you are part of the colonizing and the ongoing genocide.

If you're fighting us if we resist the colonization of our lands, then you are a conqueror. However you feel justified in this is up to you, but I feel justified in defending myself and my own.

[–]liberty_primer 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Fair enough. That makes us enemies then. Just know, I’d be more than happy to live and let live.

You’re creating the issue, not me.

PS: Genocide involves actually actively killing people. If the colonists left the Amerindians alone or attempted to coexist with them, it wouldn’t have been genocide.

[–]Dragonerne 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No, you're the one colonizing. You are making the issue. I'd be more than happy to live and let live but you're colonizing our lands and refusing to leave when asked. You have a homeland. This is ours.

Genocide can happen without actively killing people. If you put 1 million africans on Iceland with a population of 100k, then you'd see the icelandish people gone within a few generations or reduced to nothing. This is what you're doing. One street, one city, one state at a time. A slow and steady displacement and genocide of whites in our own lands.

You can live and let live in our seperate lands. However you and your kind want ours, while proclaiming "we come in peace".