So much stink about 4% Volcanoes emit between 0.2 and 0.3 billion tons of carbon dioxide per year whereas human activities emit about 29 billion tons of carbon dioxide per year BUT 770 billion tons co2 ARE produced by nature (96%)

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[–]Tom_Bombadil 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Man made climate change is a hoax.

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

I agree. But planting trees is good.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Planting trees is great.

Awards all around!

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

After discovering The Juice Media on SaidIt a few months back I watched their Honest Ads back catalog. A few years ago they still bought the Climate Change hype, as did I. In their recent ad I think they may have switched. What do you think? /s/conspiracy/comments/c9s/honest_government_ad_the_abc/

I can't tell if it's part of the overall satire or if it's embedded satire within the satire or both, or even what they're thinking.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

It sounded like they still agree with the man-made climate change scam.

Well intentioned, but mislead.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I was hoping they got woke.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Hopefully soon. It's tough to come around to reality. The propaganda gets you in childhood. It's a dogma.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Dogma and tribalism. I might have been more skeptical about Climate Change earlier on if I'd always leaned right.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Me too. However, having been proven wrong on a number of issues, I have a profound respect for the right.

I don't necessarily agree, but I have found that the right is much more willing to listen, and change their view; based on clearly presented evidence.

The organized left struggles to accept change. IMO.

I would have said I'm on the left in the past, but that word has lost much of it's previous meaning.

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I never found either side was good at listening.

"They" are intentionally destroying the left. From union busting, to "feminism", to SJWs, to blatantly rigged elections, and now full term abortions, etc. The "organized" corporate-left resembles an insane asylum and nothing of the authentic progressive-left. I hate even saying I lean left now. I lean Green, but will not abide astroturf.

I'm still not into religion or conservative sex issues but over the last few years I've grown to consume almost 50/50 media. Conservative-liberal, religious-atheist, whatever as long as they have authentic views. I may not agree with them but at least I'll understand them and their context. I've changed a lot of my views and am even more committed to others, yet respect the differences. I never would have thought I'd be for guns, Holocost and Climate denial, etc etc etc.

[–]wizzwizz4 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The important figures are:

  • The difference (not ratio) between the produced and absorbed quantities of greenhouse gases.
  • The proportion of the atmosphere containing the gases.

The first is, for want of a better word, the deficit. The second is, seriously for want of a better word, the debt (though the "zero" point is not "no greenhouse gases"). It doesn't matter how much we produce, how much nature produces, how much volcanoes emit… What matters is how much is being added every year, and the difference between the level that it's at and the level that it should be; we should be paying attention to the size of those numbers to determine the significance of this issue.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Dude. You are lost.

You've come to the right place though. JasonCarswell are left leaning, and I can help show you the way back to reality.

[–]wizzwizz4 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

??? I'm not even saying that the issue is significant, though I believe that it is! I'm just saying that we're focussing on the wrong numbers to determine whether it is significant.

We should be focusing on the net change in amount, and the difference between what is and what should be. Not gross figures. Does that make me right-leaning? I don't understand this whole "left right" thing.