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[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (41 children)

It's quite obvious to anyone with half a brain that a real vaccine provides immunity.

They do provide immunity. That's why the viral load is lower in those infected people who have been vaccinated.

The so-called covid "vaccines" did not.

Do you think "immunity" in medicine is like immunity in law, where the virus agrees never to enter your cells of you've been vaccinated?

In medicine, immunity means that your immune system recognises the infection and mounts a more robust defence once you've been infected.

You can be against the covid fake vaccines and still not be anti-vaccine in general.

That fake tetanus vaccine doesn't provide "immunity" because 10 years later they recommend you have another one? That fake rabies vaccine that doesn't provide immunity, because you still need to get to hospital for treatment after infection?

Or are you claiming that the Covid vaccines don't confer any immunity?

Because we could look at the evidence that that's wrong if that's your position.

[–]ID10T 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (40 children)

Lol nobody believes you. You sound very foolish.

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (39 children)

Lol. Everyone believes that immunity in medicine is achieved when there are antibodies to that disease in a person's system.

And people who aren't foolish or infants know that that means that you mount a robust immune response to infection. Which is what the Covid vaccines achieve.

You sound very foolish.

Lol. You can't even make an argument.

[–]ID10T 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (38 children)

You just post bs. There's no argument to make

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (37 children)

These are the arguments you could make:

You could start by clarifying which wrong position you think that is "quite obvious to anyone with half a brain": that the Covid vaccines don't confer any immunity or that only 100% effective, permanent immunity counts as a vaccine.

Then you could address the scholarly papers I've linked to that measure the (non-zero) effectiveness of the vaccines at reducing transmission. Why do you think those papers all find that the vaccines do that? Do you have a paper that finds the opposite?

If not do you have any possible reason for claiming any of your bullshit that a rational human might find compelling?

If not, do you have anything to suggest that there's something you believe that shouldn't be dismissed as the delusional thinking of an under-medicated schizophrenic?

[–]ID10T 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (36 children)

Why are you talking? Don't you have like a twentieth booster to get? I'm sure your heart can take at least twenty more.

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (35 children)

Other way around mate:

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/united-states-rates-of-covid-19-deaths-by-vaccination-status

Shouldn't you be exposing yourself to viruses without being vaccinated? I'm sure your heart can keep taking it.

[–]ID10T 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (34 children)

Get a hundred boosters booster boy

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (33 children)

Keep getting infections, disease boy.

[–]ID10T 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (31 children)

I've had Covid before the "vaccines" were available. It was barely a cold for me. Extremely mild. Everyone I know who's vaccinated got Covid multiple times and really severe. Shit is garbage. Stay boosted dumbass.