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[–]ID10T 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (38 children)

You just post bs. There's no argument to make

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (37 children)

These are the arguments you could make:

You could start by clarifying which wrong position you think that is "quite obvious to anyone with half a brain": that the Covid vaccines don't confer any immunity or that only 100% effective, permanent immunity counts as a vaccine.

Then you could address the scholarly papers I've linked to that measure the (non-zero) effectiveness of the vaccines at reducing transmission. Why do you think those papers all find that the vaccines do that? Do you have a paper that finds the opposite?

If not do you have any possible reason for claiming any of your bullshit that a rational human might find compelling?

If not, do you have anything to suggest that there's something you believe that shouldn't be dismissed as the delusional thinking of an under-medicated schizophrenic?

[–]ID10T 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (36 children)

Why are you talking? Don't you have like a twentieth booster to get? I'm sure your heart can take at least twenty more.

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (35 children)

Other way around mate:

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/united-states-rates-of-covid-19-deaths-by-vaccination-status

Shouldn't you be exposing yourself to viruses without being vaccinated? I'm sure your heart can keep taking it.

[–]ID10T 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (34 children)

Get a hundred boosters booster boy

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (33 children)

Keep getting infections, disease boy.

[–]ID10T 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (31 children)

I've had Covid before the "vaccines" were available. It was barely a cold for me. Extremely mild. Everyone I know who's vaccinated got Covid multiple times and really severe. Shit is garbage. Stay boosted dumbass.

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (30 children)

Even a mild case of covid increases your heart attack and stroke risk afterwards.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-00403-0

Everyone I know who's vaccinated got Covid multiple times and really severe.

That's very difficult to believe. Unless you only know two people, you're probably seeing confirmation bias.

Because it's not controversial that the vaccines reduce the severity of infection.

But keep dreaming while you can, disease boy: heart attacks and strokes are sudden.

[–]ID10T 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (29 children)

I know over ten people including coworkers that have been boosted and had terrible cases of covid. The shit doesn't work, period. But of course it's totally believable the same companies that created the opioid crisis, and have had billions in fines on covering up deadly medications that they brought to market knowing they were deadly would certainly never do any funny business with mRNA vaccines! That's a mad conspiracy theory! You can totally trust them this time!

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (27 children)

I know over ten people including coworkers that have been boosted and had terrible cases of covid.

Well they're lucky they're boosted. It probably saved their lives.

Have you ever wondered if you might have been an asymptomatic spreader, to have so many colleagues go down? I would have been unhappy if one of my colleagues was unvaccinated.

The shit doesn't work, period.

Your reasoning doesn't work, period.

But if you think your recollection of the vaccination history of your colleagues is good evidence, why don't you write it up and submit it to the NEJM?

Someone may learn something.

But of course it's totally believable the same companies that created the opioid crisis, and have had billions in fines on covering up deadly medications that they brought to market knowing they were deadly would certainly never do any funny business with mRNA vaccines!

Just the mRNA vaccines you have a problem with? So the traditional ones like the AstraZeneca, you claim are fine.

You don't make that clear until now. Are you sure your thinking is clear and rational about this?

That's a mad conspiracy theory! You can totally trust them this time!

They're out to make a profit. But where vaccination rates are high, all cause mortality is low. Epidemiological studies independent of the pharmaceutical companies show that. So in this case their products work. People should get vaccinated, for their own benefit, but also to make their communities safer.