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[–]ActuallyNot 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

There is no evidence that any of the COVID-19 vaccines ever reduced transmission.

That's not true.

Here's some evidence that COVID-19 vaccines reduce transmission:

Effect of Covid-19 Vaccination on Transmission of Alpha and Delta Variants

But there’s plenty of statistical evidence that excess mortality spiked after the vaccines rolled out.

Only for bad statistics.

All cause mortality is always lower in vaccinated groups once corrected for age and underlying conditions.

For instance COVID-19 vaccination was also found to be effective against all-cause mortality, likely from both direct effects and the impact on other outcomes, such as cardiovascular diseases, known to occur following COVID-19.

Also, there’s a clear mechanism of action for how spike proteins, produced in large quantities by vaccine design, would cause heart inflammation as well as inflammation of endothelial tissues.

Noting that covid infection also includes these spike proteins, but in much larger numbers than from a vaccination.

Role of Endothelium in Cardiovascular Sequelae of Long COVID

SARS-CoV-2 leads to a small vessel endotheliitis in the heart

Heart Problems after COVID-19

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

Vaccines protect a person through immunity, not through stopping transmission. Gloves protect you from touching shit, it doesn't stop you from spreading that shit on everything you touch. This is basic understanding. Quit shilling for Fauci the fraudster.

[–]ActuallyNot 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Vaccines protect a person through immunity, not through stopping transmission.

Sure. But if you're vaccinated your viral load doesn't get as high, and you're less infectious to others.

This is basic understanding.

I linked to a scholarly paper, and suggest you read it.

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I recommended common sense, and suggest you go fuck yourself.

[–]Jiminy 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

Will need ten years of studies to see if that is true

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

[–]Jiminy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Nah need ten years to study

If it's deemed safe I'll think about getting it

Doubt it based on all the died suddenlys tho

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Nah need ten years to study

Are you basing that claim on anything?

What's wrong with the evidence we have?

If it's deemed safe I'll think about getting it

They've safer than not getting them, according to all the bodies and academic institutions I can find. Whose "deemed safe" are you seeking?

Doubt it based on all the died suddenlys tho

Nah, that's CoVID not vaccination. All cause mortality is always lower in the vaccinated group than the unvaccinated.

[–]XOX7 0 insightful - 1 fun0 insightful - 0 fun1 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

The vaccines have undergone rigorous testing and have been deemed safe and effective by numerous health organizations worldwide. It's essential to trust credible sources of information and make informed decisions based on facts. Let's engage in a constructive discussion rooted in scientific evidence and contribute to a healthier and more informed community.

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Morevover, the vaccinated simply die less. Of all causes.

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    [–]Jiminy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Remind me in 2031