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[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

There's no such thing as a virus either:

I agree but this is a difficult sell to people who aren't interested in doing a detailed examination of the evidence (or lack thereof).

[–]HibikiBlack 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Well It's up to us to expose the hoax. God is with the people that defend the truth.

[–]William_World 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

people do feel sick, if there's no viruses what do you think happens?

[–]blackpoop321 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I would bet a lot of it is stress-induced health issues from the medias ramping up this 'impending doom' rhetoric. The parent poster is referring to the germ vs terrain theory, which has some validity: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germ_theory_denialism

Those are often presented as being mutually exclusive (take the meds OR clean your environment) but they're not really. Viruses and germs can exist while simultaneously promoting proper life hygiene and healthy habits.

GTD became popular again in the recent years due to obese and overtly unhealthy people being pro-vaxx while people in the health and fitness industry remained healthier while mostly unvaxxed. At the end of the day, both theories have some validity, but germ theory is more profitable for bigpharma for obvious reasons.

[–]William_World 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

it seems like not trusting science which I get but going too far. Like I can be feeling fine emotionally, spine is aligned and everything too, but then I might be standing next to a person that is sneezing or coughing then coincidentally I start feeling sick the next day. This has happened many times. And I've seen others saying they have similar expereinces. So that is like using the scientific method to confirm that yeah, something gets passed thru the air from people to people that causes sickness. This doesn't mean I want to take vaccines that use viruses nor DNA to willingly put that in my body.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

people do feel sick, if there's no viruses what do you think happens?

By this same logic, we could claim ghosts exist and cause sickness.

The germ theory is based on the idea that these nano scale particles spread, and infiltrate the body.

If this is true, then how can married couples sleep in the same bed one sick, and the other remains healthy?

How do children come home sick, and not get their parents ill? Sometimes it seems to happen, but it's very inconsistent.

A massive study was performed on prisoners who volunteered to participate for a sentence reduction. They tried everything to infect healthy prisoners.

"Infected" mucus in the mouth, nose, eye, and on and on.

They were unable to infect the test subjects.

The published conclusion was that there must be another form of "transmission", because they wouldn't admit that the germ theory was bogus.

I don't know why people get sick. There are numerous factors, but it's not caused by viruses that cannot be identified.

[–]William_World 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

they do see germs under microscopes so it's confirmed unlike ghosts. Viruses are small as molecules so that can't be seen but they can tell they exist because of testing people's blood for the type of antibodies. This is really just people being too stupid to understand science so discounting it, like with the flat earth theory.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They can see bacteria. These are real, but they aren't pathogens that are trying to infect you.

If you're unhealthy, then you may have issues if exposed to certain bacteria by ingesting, or in a cut, etc.

The virus tests are bullshit. Same as the COVID tests. An African govt sent a sample of goats blood, papaya, and motor oil.

The goats and papaya both had COVID. The tests are fake.

[–]HibikiBlack 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Well the idea is that the main reason why people get sick are: Their own individual vitality, bad sleeping and eating habits, air poisoning, poison in the system and a change in the environment.

[–]William_World 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

i guess what is the logic of saying viruses don't exist, why stop there, maybe poison doesn't exist, that'd sound silly tho right?

[–]blackpoop321 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It wouldn't. As Paracelsus, the father of toxicology coined: "the dose makes the poison", not the substance itself. You could kill someone if you give them too much sodium, but it would also kill them to not have enough sodium. The point is that the capacity for death, diseases or lack thereof, is already within you. The Bechamp's idea was that you don't "catch" a virus to get sick, you get sick by neglecting your body and its environment, therefore allowing the sickness to flourish.

[–]William_World 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

yeah but that is like how some people might catch a virus, but not that much of it so their immune system can handle it with no symptoms, that happened a lot with covid of course. And if you do neglect your body, live unhealthily, that makes it easier for a virus to hurt you. Common sense right?

[–]EddieC 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is just the kind of lively narrow spectrum debates they want us to have - to rabbithole ourselves - rather than exit their system

 
Everyone on this thread (or worse, on this forum) has been weaponized to mind gatekeep each other... notice how no one talks about solutions, or everyone talks in silos