US will provide 'considerably' more work visas for Mexicans and Central Americans, driving down wages while Americans struggle with inflation

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[–]RedEyedWarrior 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

In a generation or two, those same Mexicans and Central Americans will be replaced by more immigrants. Like how they've been replacing the Mexicans America has had for decades.

[–]Rob3122 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

But they're not replacing anyone...

[–]Drewski 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

They're filling necessary jobs that many Americans refuse to take. You can't simultaneously thumb your nose at a job and complain that someone else is doing it.

[–]jet199 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

If people won't do jobs because they pay a low wage the wages need to rise.

What do you think would happen if there were no immigrants to bring in?

[–]IridescentAnaconda 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's true. But it's also true that the cost of services provided would have to rise to accommodate the higher wage. That changes the viability of a lot of business models.

Would you eat at McDonald's if a Big Mac cost you $20?

Not saying it's ethical to exploit unskilled labor. I'm just saying that there are a lot of considerations beyond just wage in isolation.

[–]RedEyedWarrior 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Maybe so. Except that a lot of these jobs are located in areas where the cost of living exceeds the wages those jobs would pay, or the conditions would be miserable. Who would want to work for a warehouse that is owned by Amazon, with their long hours and timed bathroom breaks?

You also have a lot of young America's who went to college without any idea on what they want to get out of their degrees, because their families and schools told them they had to go to college. Those young Americans have a lot of college debt that they cannot declare bankruptcy on, and those jobs that are there do not pay enough to help pay these debts off. Furthermore, I doubt you would like to work in a sewer after spending four years and racking in $100,000 of debt for a degree. When you simply could have worked in that sewer with just a high school diploma.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

They're filling necessary jobs that many Americans refuse to take. You can't simultaneously thumb your nose at a job and complain that someone else is doing it.

If those jobs paid a living wage Americans would take them. Without immigrants willing to work for less than that, those businesses would have to