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[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (42 children)

Thanks. I had to look up purebloods and Biden. It seems there is an anti-vax movement referring to themselves as purebloods. I've not seen Biden's comemnt on this, but will keep looking. The last time I heard 'pureblood' was in the TV Series, True Blood. I think the concept is also addressed in the Harry Potter series, where we're supposed to value the contributions of a half-blood teenager. The series is not really fair to the purebloods, who are merely trying to protect their own, but are thwarted by the teenagers and their supporters. This is also a major concern of Michael Fassbender's character in the X Men series, where he - as a survivor of the Holocaust - wants to ensure the survival of the "children of the atom, homo superior, the next link in the chain of evolution," the pure blood mutants, and thus would be happy with losses to the human race, or so it seems. But I digress. I am afraid I don't know much about 'purebloods', or Biden's opinion of them, but I would suspect that he uttered a sarcastic word or two about them. He must be thinking: I'm too old for this shit. If the purebloods have had the Polio vaccine, they might already have those famous CIA nanobots in their bloodstream, tracking their every activity. (Sorry to make a joke of this, however. If I were to tell someone at work that I am not taking the vaccine because I am a pureblood, my nickname from then on might be, 'the pureblood'.)

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    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Thanks for the info. I don't think he's in full control of COVID response process. I appreciate that others here on Saidit feel differently about this and that they are also angry. So perhaps I shouldn't comment. My association with this is with regard to the history of medicine, though I will however appreciate that you and others are angry especially for political reasons, and an interest in not being forced to take the vaccine. There should be opitons for opting out, but I don't know much about how that would work, even if I'd agree that it should be possible,especially if those opting out can remain only among themselves, and not potentially infect others. Regarding the medical information, a brief reply would be that mRNA cannot insert into your genetic code. Here is more information:

    https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-mrna-megamix-idUSL1N2M61HW

    https://www.unicef.org/montenegro/en/stories/covid-19-vaccine-does-not-change-human-dna

    https://www.health.gov.au/initiatives-and-programs/covid-19-vaccines/is-it-true/is-it-true-can-covid-19-vaccines-alter-my-dna

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/victoriaforster/2021/01/11/covid-19-vaccines-cant-alter-your-dna-heres-why/?sh=719719b52491

    https://www.uwa.edu.au/news/article/2021/june/can-mrna-vaccines-affect-my-genetic-code

    [–]Node 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (39 children)

    because I am a pureblood

    It's not because you 'are', it's because you want to remain. Once you get injected with the poisons, you're a contaminated-blood, teeming with spike proteins.

    Just for the record, I'm fine with anyone who wants the injections getting them. It's a fair selection process.

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    I see your point about spike protiens, but they only last a few weeks in the body. More info here: https://www.nebraskamed.com/COVID/where-mrna-vaccines-and-spike-proteins-go

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    I wonder when/if the risk of cardiovascular adverse events decreases, does it correspond to those spike proteins, does it gradually wear off like the protection from covid, or did we create billions of permanent cripples who need to avoid strenuous activity?

    This is exactly why it is prudent for some of the population to stay unvaxxed.

    We'll need them for labor.

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    If you are the one in 50,000 people to have a minor cardiovascular problem after a dose of the vaccine, the CDC calls this a golden ticket, and will send you to Willy Wonka's chocolate factory in the Ivory Coast. Wonderful place, with oompa loompas. You'll also get blood thinners before getting on the flight. More info, here on the chances of one getting chest pains after a COVID jab. It's just temporary, and who knows - you could be a lucky winner!

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    Myocarditis is an adverse cardiac event but it's not the only one, and it goes to reason that not all possible events have even been considered to be a possible vaccine complication. One of my Aunts, not the cancer one, but a different one unexpectedly died of a blocked valve. She had health issues, so nobody was shocked she died, but her heart wasn't one of them. Everyone was surprised that was what the surgeons needed to operate on. But only in passing has anyone considered it might have anything to do with her being vaccinated. How many people like that are there?

    We'd need to look at all the cardiac events to see if the vaccine was a possible cause/ correlated, not take the word of an early study from Israel as gospel.

    The studies, published this week in The New England Journal of Medicine, analysed data from Israeli residents aged 16 and older who received at least one dose of the COVID-19 vaccine made by drug company Pfizer in New York City and biotechnology firm BioNTech in Mainz, Germany, between December 2020 and May 2021.

    Candidate for s/shitpostnews ;)

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    I am very sorry to hear of your aunt's passing. I would agree that - in geographic locations where patients and doctors aren't appropriately looking or tracking - it's very difficult to track 'causation' for vaccines and subsequent myocarditis or pericarditis, which would mean that we don't have thorough global statistics. In a number of 1st world countries, however, those who've taken the vaccine are asked to report back the second they feel a side effect, and indeed have to sit anw wait for 15 minutes after a jab before leaving a facility. The monitoring was reliable enough that a number of people under age 35 were reported to have myocarditis (in the Netherlands or Denmark?) in late 2020/early 2021. The result was the pulling of the vaccine (Astra-Zenica?) from distribution in that country and the avoidance of offering it to people under 35. The Israel article is related to those early concerns, and was provided here only because of a lazy search. If you look for - myocarditis pericarditis vaccine - you'll see much more helpful information: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-vaccination-myocarditis-and-pericarditis-information-for-healthcare-professionals/information-for-healthcare-professionals-on-myocarditis-and-pericarditis-following-covid-19-vaccination . I think that NHS information is helpful, particularly as a way of showing how commen myocarditis has become, and showing that this can be a problem potentially for younger people, c. 12-19 years of age, though only in miniscule numbers of a few hundred per million. Other websites include more information about this research.

    I don't think there is a conspiracy to hide side effects or not to address them, as medical professionals and scientists working with virology and vaccines over the past 100 years genuinely want to safely reduce the spread of viruses. To assume otherwise is to assume that many people in these professions are literally sociopaths. Propaganda news media want to spread paranoia, pessimism, hate and fear by implying that there are so many bad actors in these professions that you would be in serious danger were you to take the vaccine.

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    medical professionals and scientists working with virology and vaccines over the past 100 years genuinely want to safely reduce the spread of viruses

    You are literally defending fraudsters, it's right here: https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna32657347

    The only people looking out for you are sadditors socks. No one else gives a flying fuck.

    In an unusual twist, the head of the Justice Department, Attorney General Eric Holder, did not participate in the record settlement, because he had represented Pfizer on these issues while in private practice.

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    I appreciate your point about Big Pharma, and the numerous problems with them, especially in the US, the only country I know where Big Pharma can advertise constandly on TV and can buy politicians without any consequence. My comments are specifically not mentioning Big Pharma, or Big Corp. My references are only to "medical professionals and scientists working with virology and vaccines over the past 100 years." Many of those folks aren't on Big Pharma payrols, but are instead part of universities &c, such as Oxford, where the Astra-Zenica vaccine was developed (and it too was not best for younger people). As for Pfizer and Big Pharma, and the link you provide, they too are working with scientifically valid approaches to vaccines. Notice that Phizer is guilty of a very common problem in Big Pharma: "illegal drug promotions that plied doctors with free golf, massages, and resort junkets." This has happened for decades. What about the science behind the production of vaccines? Any problem with that? This global development and test process for safe vaccines has been a scientific and medical process, not about illegal drug promotions. The Pfizer vaccine - as it happens - is one of the better versions of the vaccine. TL,DR: I am not referencing corrupt Big Pharma when I am referencing global scientific efforts to develop and test safe vaccines. If the latter were corrupted, we'd know. Moreover, there is no motivation to corrupt the scientific process for a vaccine, in 99% of the cases. To assume otherwise is rather paranoid and fearful of scientists and medical professionals.

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    they should be transparent about the vaccine studies they did instead of wanting to wait 55 years to show them

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    Moreover, there is no motivation to corrupt the scientific process for a vaccine, in 99% of the cases. To assume otherwise is rather paranoid and fearful of scientists and medical professionals.

    Disagree strongly. Pfizer has every incentive in the world to overstate the effectiveness of their experimental 'vaccine'. Did you forget when multiple big pharma companies were all competing? COVID is a gold rush. 90% of scientists everywhere are beholden to their corporate sponsors.

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    a number of 1st world countries, however, those who've taken the vaccine are asked to report back the second they feel a side effect

    Not in the US, I don't know what country you mean here. I bet the average American doesn't know a damn thing about VAERs.

    If you look for - myocarditis

    Look for it without searching for the vaccine also. Huge uptick of cardiac events not linked currently to the vaccine.

    indeed have to sit anw wait for 15 minutes after a jab before leaving a facility.

    As far as I can tell that's because hypertension is a very common effect from the vaccine. We'd have even more patients dying if they didn't do that.

    there is a conspiracy to hide side effects or not to address them

    You mean not this time. They did that with the other drugs but never this one....

    Propaganda

    I think you're on the side of the propaganda here. There's billions at stake for the vaccine crowd. There's just not the same financial incentive to fight against the vaccine as there is to blindly support it. There isn't big ivermectin money. That drug is cheap as shit. There's big money against it though on your side.

    literally sociopaths.

    Doctors had no issues prescribing cox-2 inhibitors even though the data was sketchy. They have no problem still prescribing antidepressants although the data looks bad. I harp on those a lot because they're really big issues. How do you think they fucked the patients over for the last 30 years but suddenly had a change of heart to do good?

    Your position is becoming increasingly indefensible.

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    Your position is becoming increasingly indefensible.

    Not in the least. Problems you mention here are associated with bad medical practice, which - in the cases you mention - relates to some ongoing fiduciary problems with the medical profession. For example, I agree that the field of psychiaatry inappropriately over-prescribes antidepressants, and for this there has been several backlashes against this practice since the 1970s.

    But fiduciary irresponsiblity in the psychiatric profession is very different from the exact science of virology and the implementation of vaccine programs.

    My comments are specifically about medical science, virlogists, and the science of virology, and how there is no known motivation to get that wrong, for three reasons: (1) it's not what scientists want, and (2) if it fails, it's abandoned, and (3) scientists are, by necessity, always watching the global trends and statistics and making adjustments to those.

    Of course there will be unethical humans, bad practicioners, and corrupt corporations, but global efforts ot develop, test and use vaccines are part of a check and balance system that keep the process focused on the best available vaccine science. It is very important to disconnect the human foibles from the collaboration of scientific expertise, as the latter naturally reduces instances of the former.

    Another part of my answer to your comments I sent to d3rr, here.

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    I have also professionally sold "marital aids." Shall I be named World Czar of Vibrators? I think I should.

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    I was also a professional pizza cook. And yet I am not the world's authority on pizza.

    The Margherita pizza is my absolute favorite. It's not for everyone and that's okay.

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    My references are only to "medical professionals and scientists"

    I was a medical professional, the wife still is.

    over-prescribes

    No, not over prescribing. They forced an entire class of drugs through approval based on shoddy science. Antidepressants do not work.

    But fiduciary irresponsiblity in the psychiatric profession is very different from the exact science of virology and the implementation of vaccine programs.

    Most of medicine in the US is performed by general physicians.

    exact science of virology

    Flu shot. Cough cough cough

    if it fails, it's abandoned

    We're waiting. The writing is on the wall. The vaccine is a big fat failure. It's like the flu shot, the wrong strain too late that might help you recover faster. It's not just science at this point, it's team sport politics.

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    To assume otherwise is to assume that many people in these professions are literally sociopaths.

    There are countless (figure of speech) reports of doctors and other medical personal being censored, threatened, and losing their medical license for reporting vaccine issues.

    People are retarded, but they're not necessarily stupid when it comes to recognizing threats to their own wellbeing. Not only is there massive money and power behind this, it's clearly coordinated worldwide. You wouldn't need to be a sociopath to see which way the wind is blowing.

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    Reports from where? Are your sources trustworthy? Is the information corroborated by other sources? There isn't a secret global conspiracy to actively harm people with vaccines. We know this because we have access to the scientific data, and because we know that this is not the tradition with virology or the medical profession. To assume that all of this has recently changed, globally, in order to harm people, is ridiculous.

    [–]Node 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    Reports from where? Are your sources trustworthy?

    It's like you're claiming to be on a different internet.

    [–]Node 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    We've seen too much blatant misinformation disseminated by the medical community to believe anything they say. Doctors telling the truth about covid or reporting adverse events from the 'vaccines' are being censored or losing their medical licenses. The word 'insane' would be a good description for current events, if it all wasn't part of their plan.

    And since you're socks, it's also true that retards, trolls, and disinformation agents are posting nonsense conspiracy theories to discredit legitimate concerns. The casual observer can be hard-pressed to discern the difference.

    I won't even mention "germ vs terrain" theory, beyond this sentence, but one made piles of $$$ for the pharma industry began by the Oiligarchs, and the other was just based on healthy living.

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    You don't have to turn to insults, Node. Remember the pyramid of debate.

    You should ask yourself about the people in the 'medical community'. Are they there because they're sociopaths who want to cause harm? Are scientists evil, and trying to kill or harm people with their research. How many sociopaths are there in any population, or in the medical profession? Is there a global effort to understand and address COVID19, and thus regulate approaches by big pharma? To assume anything you note would be to think that people are naturally evil and want to kill you. Get a grip. Another response to this kind of issue is here.