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[–]ActuallyNot 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

I saw this headline on the anti-science site natural news. Sound naming convention: Bullshit is natural.

Anyway, so I clicked through to the paper, and read the abstract.

It says in part:

Viral loads of breakthrough Delta variant infection cases were 251 times higher than those of cases infected with old strains detected between March-April 2020.

Fully vaccinated people do fucking not carry 251 times the viral load. It's people infected with the delta variant that have 251 times the viral load.

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If you read on past that point, you get to:

Interpretation: Breakthrough Delta variant infections are associated with high viral loads, prolonged PCR positivity, and low levels of vaccine-induced neutralizing antibodies, explaining the transmission between the vaccinated people.

Meaning, the 'vaxed' are superspreaders.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

No, that is not the meaning.

Those with a delta variant infection are superspreaders, even if they're vaccinated with Astrazeneca.

There is no implication that the unvaccinated have a lower viral load. There's no implication that the viral load of delta is not reduced by the mRNA vaccines.

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There is no implication that the unvaccinated have a lower viral load.

Additionally, there's no implication that IRS agents or bus drivers have a lower viral load. Same applies to crane operators, underwater welders, and "sex workers".

That's because the study focused on vaxers, as exemplified by their use of the term "breakthrough". This means vaxers that the virus has broken through their supposed immunity.

Is Reddit paying you to spread this disinformation to other sites? Or is it some other entity?

Okay, okay, I realize you can't answer that with this account, and expect payments to continue. But can you think of a reason why you shouldn't be killed as an enemy collaborator? Note that the taliban are not the only people with moral standards.

Even if you're behind seven proxies, there's a new technique (to me, anyway), that apparently can track you back to your real IP.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Additionally, there's no implication that IRS agents or bus drivers have a lower viral load. Same applies to crane operators, underwater welders, and "sex workers".

Right. But there is an implication that the unvaccinated would not have a lower viral load.

In that even though they were looking at breakthrough cases, there was no correlation between neutralizing antibodies at diagnosis and peak viral loads during the course of infection. So extrapolating that to no antibodies at diagnosis, you would also expect no effect on peak viral load.

That's because the study focused on vaxers, as exemplified by their use of the term "breakthrough". This means vaxers that the virus has broken through their supposed immunity.

Yes. The cases were breakthrough cases. And the controls were also vaccinated.

Is Reddit paying you to spread this disinformation to other sites? Or is it some other entity?

I'm not spreading disinformation. Natural News is spreading disinformation. Your statement "Meaning, the 'vaxed' are superspreaders." is disinformation. The truth (if we accept your definition of "superspreader" to mean cases with a high viral load), is that people with the Delta infection are superspreaders.

Even if you're behind seven proxies, there's a new technique (to me, anyway), that apparently can track you back to your real IP.

Wonderful. However the paper does not imply that the vaccinated have a higher viral load than the unvaccinated.