Papers, Please! Oregon Now Requires ‘Proof of Vaccination’

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[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

Your point? You think people shouldn't have a choice?

They should certainly have a choice between masking, vaccination or isolation.

Of course people will protect their right to preserve their body as is, aka 'un vaxed', aka organic.

Ummm. What do you think "organic" means?

Vaccination isn't going to make anyone's body inorganic.

By whatever means necessary.

The necessary means are isolating or masking.

The masks don't do shit.

Extraordinary claim. We know that they are about 70% effective against other corona-viruses for protection of the wearer. They're probably similar for protection from the wearer, for a total of something like 90% effective if both are masked.

https://www.pnas.org/content/118/4/e2014564118?fbclid=IwAR0acQLrK5uzFbEsJE5E7lDgkcBVPB7b_2CjhPAy2yG2jDzEJ5H5ekpwVIk

And we can estimate from physics that a mask should be about 95% effective through the mask, but leakage around the mask will make that worse.

https://aip.scitation.org/doi/full/10.1063/5.0047622

But I haven't seen this "don't do shit" conclusion from the medical literature. Where are you getting it from?

It is abundantly apparent, since you're still pushing them- are you a paid liar or just a complete moron?

You might need to elaborate on the abundance of this apparentness. Perhaps with an abundance of evidence show it?

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

Lmao "They should certainly have a choice between masking, vaccination or isolation."

You don't get to force us to make this choice. Fuck you.

[–]RightousBob 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

No only do these medical fascists not have the legal right to force ANYONE to take their experimental gene therapy, but they also don't have the intelligence or ability to implement it. Last ditch attempt by a dying paradigm to maintain control that they unknowingly lost decades ago.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

[...] force ANYONE to take their experimental gene therapy [...]

Wow!

I'm hope I'm wrong in presuming that this isn't satire.

I shudder to go in, but I'm guessing that it's vaccinations, not isolation or masks that you think is "experimental gene therapy"... ?

Edit: Oh, it's the dibble guy again who doesn't know or accept that 0 and 13 are different numbers of deaths. This line of questioning isn't going to be enlightening. I withdraw the question.

If you think a vaccine is going to alter your genes, you should definitely take the chance. It's not going to make it worse is it.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Do you think people should be able to kill you, as well as thinking that you should be able to kill other people?

Or is this a one-way right that you have, but other's don't?

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    [–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    Fucking prove that I've killed someone because I haven't worn a mask or gotten vaxxed.

    That could be done in some cases.

    Should killing someone only be illegal if there's proof? What if you were behaving recklessly, and infected 300 people directly or indirectly and 17 of them died. Maybe a few of them might have died anyway. And you can't tell which 12 or so you killed.

    Should that be legal?

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    No, you dipshit, fucking prove that I have killed someone. Do that, then you can try and have this discussion with me.

    Until you do that, you have nothing but theoretical questions and scenarios. Innocent until proven guilty. THAT is what is RIGHT.

    [–]curious2 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    That’s a good point. If someone believes we are innocent until proven guilty, then the “sick until proven healthy” approach (which requiring masks implies) would seem to contradict that.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    It's the truth, man. I don't understand how people can just assume that I'm sick, or that I'm a danger, when they have no proof at all that I'm sick or a danger.

    Innocent until proven guilty doesn't mean shit in the Empire, doesn't mean shit to the GovCorp. However, the GovCorp doesn't decide what is right. innocent until proven guilty is what is right.

    [–]FuckMasks 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

    No no no no no no no. You're so wrong.

    Listen here, if you're afraid of the 'virus' then YOU vaxx yourself, mask yourself and YOU fucking run and hide from me when I come by breathing & puffing up all the fucking oxygen I please

    [–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

    Slightly wonder why you put virus in quote marks. And I wonder if you think oxygen is restricted by a mask.

    Under self-defence laws, if someone suspects you have the virus and are puffing at them, can they stand their ground and shoot you in the face?

    Asking for a friend.

    [–]FuckMasks 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

    Nope you can't.

    Breathe my germs or run. Or trust this miracle vaxx you have.

    You're not worth the time but I'll still bother to address one more thing- you don't think the masks restrict oxygen , but you think they magically stop viruses?

    [–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    You're not worth the time but I'll still bother to address one more thing- you don't think the masks restrict oxygen , but you think they magically stop viruses?

    Is your claim that a virus is smaller than an oxygen molecule?

    Because there's two atoms in O2.

    What do you think a virus is made of?

    [–]FuckMasks 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    I know they BOTH go through.

    [–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    The virus is about 300 times wider. (~100 nm for the CoVID virus vs ~ 0.299 nm for O2)

    So oxygen will find a lot more materials a lot more permeable.

    [–]FuckMasks 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😭

    [–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

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