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[–]charlie6067 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

What we have here isn't systemic racism by police but systemic arrest avoidance by thugs.

[–]Nemacolin[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I would have thought this was a case of a policeman being unable to do his job.

[–]pcpmasterrace 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

[–]Nemacolin[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Groovy

[–]Nemacolin[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

This is tough for a lot of people. Those who hate both the police and Black people are torn.

The Minneapolis Police Department's top homicide detective testified that kneeling on George Floyd's neck after he had been handcuffed was "totally unnecessary," saying that "if your knee is on someone's neck -- that could kill them."

Lt. Richard Zimmerman, head of the homicide division for more than 12 years, testified Friday that Derek Chauvin's actions violated policy by pressing his weight down on Floyd's neck for more than nine minutes while the man was handcuffed and in a prone position. Police are not trained to kneel on a person's neck, he said.

"Once the person is cuffed, the threat level goes down all the way," the lieutenant told jurors at Chauvin's murder trial.

"How can that person hurt you?" he asked, adding that "you getting injured is way down." Keeping the person handcuffed and in a prone position "restricts their breathing," he said.

Asked by prosecutor Matthew Frank if he was ever trained to kneel on a person, Zimmerman said no.

"Because if your knee is on someone's neck -- that could kill them," the lieutenant said.

Chauvin at that point raised his head at the defense table and shot a look at Zimmerman.

The potentially devastating testimony by the department's most senior officer came on the abbreviated fifth day of testimony in the closely-watched trial. Judge Peter Cahill sent jurors home early because the trial was ahead of schedule. Testimony resumes Monday.

Zimmerman said Chauvin's actions were "uncalled for" and "totally unnecessary."

"You need to get them off their chest," the veteran investigator said at one point. "If you're lying on your chest, that's constricting your breathing even more."

[–]pcpmasterrace 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

(((Zimmerman))) won't mention how American police are taught this technique by the IDF or how this technique has been used on Palestinians for decades.

[–]Nemacolin[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Technique? Anyone who knows hoe to fight knows how to kill. There is no secret (((Israeli))) technique here.

[–]one1won 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

"You need to get them off their chest," the veteran investigator said at one point. "If you're lying on your chest, that's constricting your breathing even more."

Really? I thought I'd read reports of severe Covid patients being placed in prone position. Were hospital workers trying to kill those patients?

Prevalence of ARDS among COVID-19 patients has been reported to be up to 17%. Among the introduced treatment methods for management of ARDS patients, prone position can be used as an adjuvant therapy for improving ventilation in these patients.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32309812/

[–]Nemacolin[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You need to call the defense team. They could put you on the stand to save this poor police officer.

[–]one1won 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

So, fuck facts and real, old fashioned, science. Only politics matter nowadays. Whatevs

[–]Nemacolin[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You are apparently not trained either in combat nor medicine. Your random thoughts about these subjects have very little value and are not facts.

[–]one1won 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Liberal defense lawyer warns Chauvin trial has potential to ruin American justice system by overturning constitutional protections

Episode of 4/3/21 https://reasonabledoubtpodcast.com/

Edit: link

[–]Nemacolin[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Cool. So you figure we have to let the killer go?

[–]one1won 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm saying we have a, somewhat, balanced legal system, that may be in peril. The trial is not yet over, I assume not all evidence has yet been heard. The legal Presumption of innocence unless proven otherwise in a court of law is a vital concept for ALL Americans.

(Personally, I have not yet fully formed an opinion. Early days, as already stated.)

Adding: your response was too soon after my comment, I believe it safe to assume you did not watch/listen to the podcast I referenced.

[–]Nemacolin[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If we presume he is innocent, why is he in jail? If we presume he is innocent, why is the government prosecuting him?

No, I do not watch moving images.