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[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Your frame is generally more reliant upon genetics than hormones. Hormones have an influence in women because they need to be able to give birth, but that's primarily around the hips. I've seen cis-women who have large frames and cis-men who have small frames, though generally it's the other way around.

My frame's not really been an issue for me and I've never taken hormones. It's not great, but it's not terrible either — and that's all up to genetics.

If someone under 18 needs treatment for non-transitional purposes that's entirely fine, btw. It's just when you want to counter your natural development when it needs to wait.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

frame has to do with testosterone levels during puberty, gotta boost them. They're low for men these days cuz of poullution and bad diets. If you saw a cis woman with a big frame, sucks for her, she looks manly, maybe should have been on estrogen during pubberty.

[–]jet199 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Incels can boost their testosterone naturally. They just can't be bothered.