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[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I think some people make a silly straw man out of coops implying they can never produce anything because they are Communism and therefore starvation is guaranteed.

But you have to acknowledge that successful or at least viable examples of coops are in the 90s IQ range in terms of cognitive requirements.

By the way, you are being fallacious here. Just because 94 Spaniard Pedro can, it doesn’t mean 75 Tyrone does. He should probably leave cooping to 90 LaShasha and 105 Mike.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I.Q. has nothing to do with it. A coop can have a whole variety of I.Q.s on the team so pretending that the average is important or relevant is stupid. A factory of boring jobs doesn't require rocket surgeons - but those people do require employment, and they deserve fair wages and not to be exploited.

Honestly, the way you guys obsess over it makes me think you are retarded and I.Q. envious.

Worker coops are not communism - in fact they're the exact opposite on the socialism spectrum.

Communism is corrupt top down totalitarian government controlling everything without choice.

Coops are bottom up with democratic choices on as much as the team wants.

You're certainly intentionally trying (and failing) to make authentically democratic coops seem impractical, though if you had any intelligence you'd see the irrationality of that.

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Nowhere did I state that truly democratic coops are impractical. They can work in a narrow set of circumstances.

Democracy in general is impractical, but coops don’t have to work with the same heterogenous populations. They can select people whose interests and performance do mostly align.

You talk about average IQ but variance is also important. If 25% of members contribute nothing of value, your overall performance will necessarily suffer.

IQ or rather what IQ measures is g - the general intelligence factor. This factor has been shown to correlate with performance in pretty much any human task that requires a degree of cognition.

Experience aside, why do you think some people working a cashier job can work through dozens of customers in the time it takes others to process one?

Is it maybe because they can tell where the bar code is, the rotation required to align it with the reader, the payment method, or the coins’ value at a glance? Maybe they also have the impulse control required not to ask the customer where they bought that fabulous sweater?

Why wouldn’t this kind of person make better decisions?

Are you denying these differences or are you arguing that democracy will even them out somehow?

By the way, the coops I’m familiar with all have some sort of underclass of uninvolved cash-cow “members”. What would happen if they voted(do they even have equal rights?) against the interests of the “democratic” intelligentsia running things?