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[–]mongre 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

I've been growing cannabis, working as an advocate and activist for over 20 years. This (low effort) attempt to discredit the "devil's lettuce" is typical of reefer madness, older people who would happily pop vicodin 4x a day then scoff at weed for being a lazy hippie drug.

No drug will wipe out pain but I've seen close to 100 people go from being totally dependent on opiates to function, ditch those awful pills for a few puffs throughout the day.

Weed is benign but like anything can be abused. The simple facts surrounding cannabis are so warped from decades of propaganda. This is because cannabis competes with pharmaceutical drugs, timber, textiles, oil (especially oil), plastics, timber and law enforcement agencies deriving their budget from the "war on drugs" (eg private prisons)

Don't be fooled. Alcohol is far worse and enjoying cannabis can be a very rewarding spiritual experience once you get past the bullshit you've been fed for the past 70 years.

[–][deleted] 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

I love weed, but ... defending your substance is one of the hallmarks of addiction. A habit is something you do every day. Do you get high every day? I do. I'm getting high as I write this. I have quit for long periods though, it gives you perspective. Like I realize I'm an addict.

I don't like when potheads throw alcohol or opiates under the bus. We ban people's pain meds for cancer and tell them they can get high instead... And if they can squeak by on weed, you call that a win. It's not a good thing. Pot has its problems too.

cannabis competes with pharmaceutical drugs

Cannabis is a multi billion dollar itself. You telling me hundreds of dollars for an oz of weed ain't super exploitative.

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

I think it's more about dispelling myths about weed (like "reefer madness"). And with the alcohol thing, the reason that point is made often is because the some of the same people who drink alcohol regularly think weed is so bad for you. It's a double standard that doesn't make sense because alcohol is objectively more dangerous and unhealthy.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You remember when Biden was being quoted for saying nigger? It was an attempt to demonize him for a quotation. It was obviously a quotation. And yet this kinda gotcha journalism swings in and tries to frame it out of context. Being against shoddy journalism doesn't mean I'm defending anyone.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Oops, sorry, I totally replied to the wrong message.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Haha, I wasn't sure if I was just slow and not getting it or what.

[–]mongre 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I don't think I'm addicted but I do enjoy it. I spend large periods of time without it and it doesn't bother me one bit.

We ban people's pain meds for cancer

There hasn't been a single cancer patient that I know of that has been kept from opiates. They prescribe them like candy. I've helped a lot of people dying from cancer and they all have been destroyed not only from the disease, but the opiates really mess them up. Cannabis is effective at getting them off opiates and countless people have switched to managing pain with the evil weed.

If you.knew the amount of work that went in to that oz of weed you might not complain as much about prices, though. It's not easy.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There hasn't been a single cancer patient that I know of that has been kept from opiates

https://www.cancer.gov/news-events/cancer-currents-blog/2020/opioids-cancer-pain-oncologists-decreasing-prescriptions

It is unforgivable.

[–]BravoVictor 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I've been growing cannabis, working as an advocate and activist for over 20 years. This (low effort) attempt to discredit the "devil's lettuce" is typical of reefer madness, older people who would happily pop vicodin 4x a day then scoff at weed for being a lazy hippie drug.

The medicinal drugs in pot have been understood and legal for decades. You don't need to cannabis to get those effects. You're only hiding behind misinformation to rationalize your degenerate drug addiction. Just because it doesn't immediately kill you doesn't mean it's "benign".

Don't be fooled. Alcohol is far worse and enjoying cannabis can be a very rewarding spiritual experience once you get past the bullshit you've been fed for the past 70 years.

Yes, and every doctor will recommend you not drink alcohol either, because it's literally a mild poison. Very poor attempt at a whataboutism.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The medicinal drugs in pot have been understood and legal for decades.

CBD was federally illegal until 2018. Still, it's stronger in combination with THC.

[–]mongre 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The medicinal drugs in pot have been understood and legal for decades.

What a laugh. You love your Pfizer, don't you? They're innefective and a sad comparison to the beautiful plant.

I love being called a degenerate loser especially considering im successful in life, have an awesome family and I'd likely work circles around you. You sound like you could use some cannabis to give you a better perspective.

[–]BravoVictor 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Exactly. The euphoric high and brain-dulling sedative qualities of alcohol without the hangover. No way that could ever be addictive...

[–]Brewdabier 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Weed is addictive, I've seen idiots walk out of a weed shop and lite up as they walk to there car. Can't wait to get home so drive DUI.

[–]TRapostate 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

weed is mild as far as drugs go, but it's absolutely addictive. it absolutely can reduce a person to a shell of their former self. but it's a nice drug when used responsibly. if you wake and bake you are a drug addict, and maybe you can be functional, but most people who smoke all day end up become lazy pothead dumb dumb heads.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

all your other products are shit and not worth my money. so, of course, you got to make it illegal, because you are a turd who runs shit town, and you just want people to buy shit they don't want.

[–]Cocobellend 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It’s not addictive in the way most drugs are, like the awful physical withdrawals, but it certainly can be additive to many people, myself included. I hated smoking it but I did it, I hated how I felt on it but I carried on, I hated the paranoia I personally got and I hated being broke but I couldn’t stop because I kept wanting it, I felt like I needed it. I also smoked with tobacco so I was definitely addictive to the nicotine which wasn’t helping the mental addiction to weed because I only smoked the tobacco with the weed. I’m almost a year clean now and don’t crave it and haven’t craved it since about a month or two into quitting it all. I got sick and couldn’t smoke so I decided there and I’d stop, it was tough and at first and after two weeks of nothing I allowed myself the weed as long as I left out the tobacco, my theory was one thing at a time, but I noticed I hated it, I didn’t enjoy it so didn’t do it for another few days, tried it again, had a pull and just decided nope, this isn’t for me anymore. I’m surprised how much better I am without it because I’d convinced myself I needed it. My partner still smokes but he quit the tobacco too, and I don’t even realise it’s in the house or when he’s had one unless he comes back in with a gust of wind and I smell it. This has become and essay but basically weed is addictive and if you’re telling yourself it 100% isn’t instead of accepting that for many it is, then you yourself might be addicted.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

EXACTLY. It's not addictive in that it makes you want it. It's sort of, if you will allow me, "anti-anti-addictive" in that it makes you NOT WANT. Which of course feels like you need nothing, which is great because you aren't craving much (OK maybe ice cream or something) but that feeling of missing SOMETHING is gone, thanks to weedo. So that way it can replace most of your other "needs".

It just becomes so much easier to light a joint than to go and do difficult things, difficult changes, in order to get whatever it is you actually wantED before cancelling out your actual needs with the feeling of needing nothing, except maybe a few slices of pizza, thanks to the green stuff.

Which is also why it makes people lazy. And before some of you potheads reply it doesn't make you lazy, I'll tell you: that's a lazy response. Your laziness might not mean you're not getting anything done, but rather you aren't doing the hard things you need to do, or especially, effecting a major, difficult change in your life that you actually need, that's laziness too.

[–]RandumbZer0 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

A lack of self control is NOT automatically an addiction, but it seemingly sure is a worn out excuse for the natural born lazy.