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[–]zyxzevn 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I know that the media is marking the healthy people as plague-rats again.
And they are completely lying about the risks.

They are stepping over the questions:
"By what definition is the experimental injection a vaccine?"
"Is there an effective vaccine / injection ? For how long? And does it strengthen or weaken the immune system?"
"What are the side effects of the experimental injection? And how often do they occur? And what about the long term?"
"Who is really creating lasting immunity and have immunity against the variants?"
"Are there medicine that work well against the disease?"

That is because the media are murderous liars.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

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[–]Gravi 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Aren't vaccines supposed to protect one from getting it anyway? Oh wait right, it isn't it's purpose, it's to change ones mental state to hate the unvaccinated folk to create a human schism once again in a sort of pseudo-religious kinda way - praising the vaccine, Pfizer, Fauci or whoever.

[–]mahavishnunj 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

i love that the vaccine is such a sure thing, they are still freaked out about us dummies who refuse to get it. shouldnt they be safe and secure?

[–]idontknowanymore 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (7 children)

It's that this crap show will never end until more people are vaccinated. It's not only protecting yourself but others too. I'm not a virologist but maybe there's an argument to be made about how variants come to be & the unvaccinated population's role in creating them by being unvaccinated.

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

These experimental mRNA gene therapies do not prevent catching or transmitting the virus or any of the scariants. Ottawa Senators Hockey Team--100% vaccinated 40% positive for controlavirus. Various "fully vaccinated cruise ships" with controlavirus outbreaks. The shots do not provide immunity, and thus people who have received the shots are no less likely to spread the virus than people who have not received the same experimental injections.

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Bacteria mutate to resist antibiotics. This only happens in cases where the bacteria is exposed to the anti-biotics. In the case of this alleged virus, it would only 'mutate' if the virus was exposed to the 'vaccine'. Blaming people who don't take a particular medicine for the effects of that medicine is not at all logical or consistent with how these mutations develop.

[–]idontknowanymore 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Seems like it prevents death though. Also virus and bacteria aren't the same thing.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

death was already unlikely in less than 1% of people so why do we have to go so nuts over this and make up mandates

[–]idontknowanymore 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm not sure where that number came from or even if it holds up to scientific scrutiny but even if it did it's so that you don't become one of the 1%. Dying suck or so i've been told.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

have better chance of dying in a car so do we outlaw all cars

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Of course virus and bacteria are not the same thing. That does not change the reason that either of those would mutate. A virus would mutate to survive against a vaccine, whereas bacteria mutate to survive against antibiotics. Blaming mutations of a virus on people who don't have these vaccines is as logical as blaming the mutation of bacteria on persons who don't take those antibiotics. So far in 2021, there have been 21 sudden deaths (most heart-related) of FIFA players. In the average year there are 4.2 such deaths in the same group. Blaming the controlavirus itself does not make sense, as last year, when covid was already present, there were 2 deaths from heart related sudden deaths. Young healthy varsity athletes are dying of heart attacks across North America, since the covid shots were administered. Deaths from all causes have increased notably since the experimental shots were being given. That's not the sort of 'death prevention' that appeals to people who don't want to be dead.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Herd immunity is a thing, God, we had this debate 20 years ago when online antivax movement started.

Same goes with measles, measles epidemic can occur if vaccination rate falls down under certain threshold. My country had few measles outbreaks few years ago.

[–]chadwickofwv 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Herd immunity from a vaccine is still a fantasy. It has never been achieved, and never will.

[–]StillLessons 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Logic has nothing to do with these policies anymore. 0%. It's 100% an emotional wedge that has been driven into the population. Feelings have nothing to do with logic or facts. Nothing.

[–]Gre 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Yes. Mattias Desmett describes this as mass formation. Socially isolated people suffering from free floating anxiety are given a way to resolve their anxiety and psychological isolation by the mass media giving them an enemy.

Same as Nazi Germany, communist revolutions and witch hunts.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

100,000%

[–]Gre 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

It kind of makes sense. Common cold lives in people and is mild or asymptomatic in most healthy people. But if you are under stress or immunocompromised it becomes a real danger.

If everyone is immunocompromised, then diseases would have to evolve to become even weaker to survive.

[–]Spotted_Lady 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I've heard other "theories," such as the vaccinated being a risk to the unvaccinated, or unvaccinated people feeling sick around vaccinated people.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Spike proteins (and feeble-minded herd mentality) are a threat.

[–]Tums_is_Smut_bkwrds 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

And that's why everyone needs to be vaccinated. If there's even one hold out then every single vaccinated person is at risk. For it to work there can't even be one unvaccinated.

And once every single person on the planet is vaccinated then what? CoViD will still be with us and people will still be dying from it. If indications are correct then they'll be dying in larger number than they are already, not to mention the side effects of the vax itself.

I think we already know what would happen though. The number of boosters required for people to qualify as vaccinated will continue to increase. And in this way there's will always be unvaccinated and the vaccinated will always be at risk from them. It's brilliant in its simplicity.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

More people vaccinated = less risk from the unvaccinated.

[–]chadwickofwv 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

That would only be true if there actually was a risk. There isn't.