Does a young girl who has her boobs removed make her into a boy?

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[–]SaltyTexan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

But there are also people out there who never questioned their gender. There are people who were four years old when they started saying "I'm not a boy, I'm a girl," and six years old when they started saying "I don't WANT this weiner, it makes me feel like a boy and I HATE feeling like a boy." People whose parents were not even supportive, let alone coercive, but who were so horrified by their bodies that they honestly didn't care about that.

Again, a child is not capable of making those choices. Kids don't understand gender, they may "feel" like the opposite sex because society has told them that boys do and like type A things and girls do and like type B things. When in fact that both boys and girls can do and like both type A & B things. Tom girls are a thing, so are effeminate boys. It doesn't necessarily mean they need to change their sex in a permanent matter. Society attempts to coerce people into things every day, whether that is through peer pressure or advertising. Hell even children's cartoons are now being scrutinized for doing it as well.

You really can't say that any child has the mental faculties to be able to make these types of decisions, because they don't. You don't find it the least bit odd, that this has only really been happening since they started putting LGBTQTIA++ in all the school curriculum recently? I do, because I am looking at the bigger picture. Kids emulate their environments, that is how they learn to grow as adults, that is a very human like thing to do, so in that regards, yes all kids are the same no matter their social, economic or racial backgrounds.

So if all children are the same in that regard, then common sense would dictate that the countries whose schools who have added this type of teachings to their curriculums are going to have an influx of kids who think they are non-binary or trans. Because they don't want to be left out. What kid do you know can honestly explain in their own words, what they think body dysphoria is. And I am not talking about them repeating what they hear, or what they have read, I mean in their own words. Because I have asked and talked to a lot of these kids and they always have the same exact answer. That tells me that they are just parroting what they have been told or what they have heard or seen others say. If kids are as different as you say they are, then shouldn't their stories be different and not identical?

I just find this all to convenient that pharmaceutical companies are now making a ton of money off these kids and their parents, because they are telling parents, "Hey if you don't want your kid to die they should take this drug." That drug was created as a form of chemical castration. It has irreversible side effects such as sterilization and causes endocrine issues in adults as they age. You can't just stop taking hormone blockers and expect to go back to being a boy or a girl, it doesn't work that way, and people who say it does are being dishonest.

[–]Hematomato 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You really can't say that any child has the mental faculties to be able to make these types of decisions, because they don't. You don't find it the least bit odd, that this has only really been happening since they started putting LGBTQTIA++ in all the school curriculum recently? I do, because I am looking at the bigger picture. Kids emulate their environments, that is how they learn to grow as adults, that is a very human like thing to do, so in that regards, yes all kids are the same no matter their social, economic or racial backgrounds.

It's been happening since time immemorial. It's just that it used to be extremely rare. It was like 1 in 20,000 people and most people lived their lives without ever hearing about a case.

I think there's no question that culture is increasing the number of people who are questioning their gender as teens. I personally know two teenagers who, in my opinion, are just playing games with gender and culture and should definitely not receive any medical intervention.

But that doesn't mean that culture invented the disorder, only that it's amplifying it. People like Christine Jorgensen, the World War 2 soldier who got sexual reassignment surgery in 1952, didn't do it because it was trendy. They did it because it was the only way they could possibly see to be happy.

And I am perfectly open to the idea that, perhaps one time in 20,000, early intervention will mean the difference between a worthwhile life and a miserable one.

I just find this all to convenient that pharmaceutical companies are now making a ton of money off these kids and their parents, because they are telling parents, "Hey if you don't want your kid to die they should take this drug." That drug was created as a form of chemical castration. It has irreversible side effects such as sterilization and causes endocrine issues in adults as they age. You can't just stop taking hormone blockers and expect to go back to being a boy or a girl, it doesn't work that way, and people who say it does are being dishonest.

I have similar concerns - that doctors will prescribe for either financial or ideological reasons. I just don't think that a ban is the appropriate response. I think doctors need more oversight, but they need oversight by doctors, not by politicans who don't actually know anything about the issue and are just tossing red meat to their base.

And this:

Again, a child is not capable of making those choices. Kids don't understand gender

That's ideology, not reality. Our culture tells us that people under 18 can't understand anything and can't make choices, yet our personal experience tells each and every one of us that's a complete load of horseshit.