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[–]SaltyTexan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

But she doesn't have any control over cancer, you do however have control over not being 500 pounds, and you have a choice in what clothes you wear, not similar at all LOL

[–]Hematomato 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I think that's a pretty teenaged way to look at the world. Stressful life circumstances plus a higher than usual appetite are going to lead to weight gain, where you simply don't have time to worry about whether you're aesthetically pleasing to other people - it's forty-eighth on your priority list.

Very few people with a job and a baby are going to try to jam "count calories and exercise an hour a day" into their lives. It's too much.

[–]SaltyTexan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

No that is a responsible way to look at the world. People can control what they put in their mouths. I being a black gay female has had some stresses in my life. I'm not overweight, yet it runs in my family. I eat healthy and I'm not lazy. You're making excuses for people's lack of self control and laziness. You don't have to count calories, I've never dieted a day in my life. I eat what I want, but I do it in moderation. I also have never set foot in a gym, but I love to go on walks in my free time. I take the stairs when it's an option instead of the elevator. I raised my two younger sisters because my mom was a alcoholic, plus put myself through school to get a good job. It can be done, people just need to stop being lazy is the problem. There is NO good excuse to be fat, aside from a damn medical condition, and I think you know that.

[–]Hematomato 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

People can control lots of things. Anyone can abstain from porn and masturbation; anyone can work fourteen-hour days to maximize their earning potential; anyone can learn to play the guitar; anyone can learn a second and third language. Anyone can abstain from all dangerous activities; anyone can choose never to waste time on the Internet.

I'm guessing you don't do all those things, though. I'm guessing some of those things aren't your priorities, or that an aescetic life wouldn't feel like one worth living to you.

You might protest that you don't have the responsibility to do all those things, which would suggest that you think the only actual responsibility people have is to look pleasant to you when they're out in public.

...which is a pretty regressive way for a black gay female to look at the world ;)

[–]SaltyTexan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

People can control lots of things.

Which completely contradicts what you said prior. So either people can control what they do or they can't. I'm going to need you to pick a struggle. Like I said and I will say it again, aside from having a medical condition there is no reason other than laziness that makes people fat. You can't even tell me I'm wrong because deep down you know I'm right. My guess is that you are making excuses because you may be a bit over weight yourself, and hearing someone say this is hard for you. I get it. But it doesn't change the fact that I'm right.

Taking care of yourself isn't a bad thing. You comparing random things that has zero to do with that our conversation was about isn't helping your cause, you pointing out that I am a black gay female has nothing to do with the fact that people who don't have a medical condition and are overweight are lazy. Are you seriously going to still defend that they are not being lazy? What causes one to be overweight? Lack of exercise and bad eating habits. You can be poor and still not eat garbage. You can be stressed out and still not eat a box of damn doughnuts. Those are CHOICES and people need to held accountable for the choices they make in their lives.

Someone can make a choice to rob a store, and if they get arrested are you going to blame their circumstances or are you going to blame the person who made the choice to rob the store in the first place. That isn't looking at the world in a regressive way at all, that is holding people accountable for their actions. Accountability is something a lot of people lack these days.

[–]Hematomato 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You just completely ignored my point.

Like I said and I will say it again, there are only 24 hours in the day. For any given hour, you can spend it jogging; you can spend it studying; you can spend it arguing with strangers on the Internet; you can spend it raising a family.

Which means that some people are thin; some people have Ph.D.s; some people have a lot of karma points; some people have four children.

So the question is: you've got four people. One of them is thin and fit and works at a grocery store. One of them is a fat lawyer. One of them is a fat mother of four. One of them is average-sized and spends hours a day arguing on the Internet.

You seem to take it for granted that the two lazy pieces of shit are the lawyer and the mother. I don't find that to be particularly self-evident. I think maybe those two are the least lazy ones.

[–]SaltyTexan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I didn't ignore your "point" you just didn't like my answer and are desperately trying to defend and make excuses on why you're overweight.

I work for a lot of lawyers and yes most of them are lazy. They are also not really fat, and some are but those ones snack all day long. I see them doing it.

My point is and is backed by medical facts, not opinions or feelings, is that unless you have a medical condition that causes you to gain weight, there is no reason why you should be fat unless you're lazy.

I've seen plenty of people with 4+ kids who are lazy. I've seen plenty of people with 1 kid who are not. I've seen plenty of people who work at a grocery store who are lazy, and plenty that are not. The only one ignoring anything is you, ignoring facts.