Can someone explain to me why at 13:14 in the NZ shooter video, he shoots his own front windshield 3 times with a shotgun point blank and it does not break?

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I saw this post this morning, and finally watched the whole video.

I knew, of course that windshields are made of laminated glass (two layers of glass with a strong plastic film sandwiched between, to prevent shattering), but watching an re-watching the video, I could not reconcile the fact that, though there was certainly "shock damage" to the windshield, I could not see any holes.

I spent way too much time today trying to figure it out, running and re-running the post-mosque segments, trying to see any actual holes in the windscreen as the perp drove through light and shadow.

Contrast these two sets of images (sorry, the files are huge, need to be cut into segments for better detail visibility).

Screen shots from the NZ mad man's windshield shots:

https://i.imgur.com/RxyJDIC.jpg

vs screen shots from US police officers shooting through their windshields at suspects:

https://i.imgur.com/nkHqbpb.jpg

At the bottom of the second image, there is a demo of what happens to a car windshield when hit by 00 buckshot (9+ pieces of lead, each of which is nearly as large as a 9mm slugs fired by sidearms typically carried by US LEO's.

The NZ shooter fired at least three shots toward his windshield. It is visibly damaged, cracked, pitted, and perhaps delaminated, but I'll be damned if I can see any HOLES in the windshield that would necessarily be there if he were firing live 12 gauge rounds at point blank.

As to the side window, as you mentioned, it is tempered glass, specifically designed to shatter into blunt, relatively harmless fragments rather than sharp shards.

A simple pebble kicked up by a passing car can totally destroy a tempered glass window. Then again, so could the shock wave of a 12 gauge (or the wad) if fired at point blank range.

Watching the video gave me serious déjà vu feelings, like I had after 9/11/2001 - building 7, etc.

Something doesn't feel right here, and seeing the megacorps scrub the videos fast and furious does not give an added sense of security.

[–]magnora7[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I only saw a hole/cracked spot after the 3rd shot to the front windshield. And you can see that spot clearly in your images of him driving aftereward. I really cannot see ones from the first two shots though. I just chalk it up to the video quality, and also maybe they were misfires or something because he physically pulls a stuck cartridge out at one point it looks like after the first 2, rather than just ejecting it normally. So I think the first 2 were misfires? Thanks for the detailed analysis, it is rather odd and still maybe worth thinking about.