Confessions from a paid shill.

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[–]zyxzevn 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Reddit and imgur in a nutshill

The easiest way to spot them now is by looking at the vote-counts.
I found several agencies active on these platforms:
Correct the record - against Bernie and wikileaks.
Monsanto - on forums about organic agriculture and veganism and conspiracy.
Israeli agencies - any forum. I think they might be pushing nazi-stuff on voat, but I am not certain.
Democrats and SJWs on political subreddits and promoting the russia-russia bullshit.
Military propaganda promoting interventionism.
NYT/WSJ/CNN- promoting CIA propaganda and anything anti-trump and anti-wikileaks.

I find Saidit OK now, but I am interested in how we can stop these shills and military intelligence teams.

My ideas: 1) It would be easy to check similar copies of replies or posts.
2) It would be easy to black-list some CIA propaganda.
3) Standard points by left/right paradigm can be marked as left/right propaganda.
4) Serious posts and replies should contain no logical fallacies, and be backed up with evidence. 5) Replies can point out bias or fallacies or counter evidence. Also can point out bias in agencies that produce evidence.
6) Blacklist propaganda words like "conspiracy", "crazy", "consensus", "racist", etc.
7) Mark users that promote a certain agenda or are illogical or are unfriendly (which they can discuss on their personal forum). If by accident this can give a friendly feedback or interesting discussion.
8) Mark posts and users that use false links or false evidence.
9) Allow different viewpoints. Focus on discussing the logic, not the viewpoints.

I even had the idea of a discussion management system like: MIT Deliberation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2w2WBCn7ug
Funny enough about carbon-tax, which I disagree with.

Etc. This requires a lot of management, but I hope it can be self-regulating.

[–]robertrobot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Great ideas.

I also had an idea for a reddit plugin, when I first noticed astroturfing, involving an optional opt-in for users, that would enable something like a community generated block-list of accounts that were known to be malicious or paid-shills.

[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's a good idea in theory, but in practice it just leads to echo chambers in my experience. And if the trolls ever get control of the majority of the list (like a 51% attack), which they would be motivated to do, then it's all over and the site is permanently ruined. So it's kind of a dangerous idea imo