What Happened To Ice Age Farmer? The man Christian Westbrook seemed to disappear about a year ago. Twitter suspended his account and hid his posts.

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[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

First, you don't need faith in money for it to work. I am not advocating hoarding cash for the sake of hoarding cash. But you have to be a fool to not understand that money is power and you need power to get anything done. If you want to resist tyranny you will need assets, and those assets can be bought.

The point is you have to be smart about it. You have to understand that if you spend 20% of your available time farming 20 eggs a week, you get 20 eggs a week and 1 rotisserie chicken a month and it costs you money for feed, takes up space, smells up your living area, etc. If you spen that time picking up overtime at $50/hr you can buy 200 eggs a week and 10 chickens. Or buy rice in buckets that will last 20 years, buy a multi fuel generator, buy a cabin away from people and pandemics, buy a camper you can use for vacations or bugging out, and on and on.

And that is just the lowest level doomer option that changes nothing and has a 1% chance of ever being relevant.

The real threat is the brainwashing of everyone around you and your own kids if you have any. To save them you need to change the education system. You need to provide them with safe media. You need to provide them with intelligent counseling. You need to teach them and provide them with experiences that will shape them into strong capable thinking adults. That takes money.

[–]In-the-clouds[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

God has blessed me to have money to buy what I need today. He has been generous to give me more food than I could possibly eat. When the currencies of this world become worthless, I will continue to trust in the Lord.

All currencies will be replaced. The US dollar is doomed. The mark of the beast will take its place. Those that take it are damned. But there is hope in Jesus Christ who can help you regardless of the status of money. God does not need money to bless you. But you need to have faith in him to receive it.

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Has God given you the courage and wisdom to help and lead your fellow man? Or do you plan to live alone, wrapped in a blanket of self congratulatory faith? Is there no passage in your scripture that commands you do more than pay lip service and virtue signal a loyalty in expectation of some reciprocal protection from the all powerful?

Faith can give you courage to do dangerous things that need to be done, or it can make you complacent in the face of imminent threat. Which is better?

[–]bogbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Has God given you the courage and wisdom to help and lead your fellow man? Or do you plan to live alone, wrapped in a blanket of self congratulatory faith? Is there no passage in your scripture that commands you do more than pay lip service and virtue signal a loyalty in expectation of some reciprocal protection from the all powerful?

Faith can give you courage to do dangerous things that need to be done, or it can make you complacent in the face of imminent threat. Which is better?

jesus said to sell everything you own and to follow him, but instead people like to run their mouths telling others how godly they are.

[–]In-the-clouds[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

What happens when a man gives away all the money he has to those more poor than himself? Do you know?

[–]bogbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

What happens when a man gives away all the money he has to those more poor than himself? Do you know?

i have known a few people that sold everything they own so that they could focus on following jesus.

the result was that their life was more rich than before they sold their possessions.

did jesus say to sell everything you own and to follow him?

ChatGPT Yes, in the Bible, specifically in the Gospel of Mark, Jesus does instruct a wealthy young man to sell everything he owns and follow him. This story is found in Mark 10:17-31. In this passage, a rich young ruler asks Jesus what he must do to inherit eternal life. Jesus tells him to sell all his possessions, give the money to the poor, and then come and follow him. However, the young man becomes sorrowful because he has great wealth and finds this command difficult to follow. This narrative is often interpreted as an illustration of the challenge of prioritizing spiritual values over material possessions.

[–]In-the-clouds[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

the result was that their life was more rich than before they sold their possessions.

Let's say you didn't know these few people before they gave everything away. If you met them at their latter state, being now "more rich", would it be wrong to tell them to give everything away? They could look at you and say, "We already did!"

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

They squander it and both are poor.

[–]In-the-clouds[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

You don't believe that God will bless the one who gave it all away? Unless you try it, you won't know. That is why the Lord says to prove him and see that he is good.

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You may find peace in asceticism and call that a blessing but I see that as justifying a belief and not evidence that you are correct. I will take my blessings in the form of sirloin streak, and measure my virtue by how much good I have done and not how much I have caused myself to suffer.

I'm going to say something that may hurt your feelings and cause you to dismiss what I have to say out of hand, but I hope it will stay with you and one day you can truly consider it. I think that the mentality of earning something, be it blessings or a spot in heaven or God's favor, through sacrifice is arrogant and narcissistic especially when that sacrifice has no real utility. You are striking a bargain with someone who has no input in the deal on the premis that the words you read and interpreted yourself are a contract which binds God. That Jesus told some rich guy he should change his life in a particular way does not constitute a contract offer to everyone in perpetuity that they can abdicate all responsibility to effect positive change by throwing away their possessions and power to say "I have nothing left with which to do good, but I have faith so give me my blessings". I don't think that is something that should be rewarded. I don't think that is a noble way to act.

[–]In-the-clouds[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You may find peace in asceticism

I don't even know what that means. I find peace in knowing that the Almighty God loves me, as he also loves you, and he is willing to help us when we turn to him in faith. The enemy can do nothing without his consent.

I am not offended by you. I sense you are not trying to be my enemy, but we are not in agreement.

The sacrifice is not about an arrogant self-entitlement, but a humble admission: I am a weak man and alone I am nothing. I have sinned and need forgiveness. Only with God's sacrifice can I be reconciled to God, through Jesus.

You do not remember your life before you came here, do you? I will tell you something that most do not know about the guilt of mankind. The spirits in heaven rebelled against God and followed his adversary Lucifer, yet they knew God. They chose darkness over light. Every man on earth voluntarily separated himself from God. When the spirits wake up from this dream life, they will have overwhelming guilt when they realize what they have done. They rebelled against God, their Father, whom they knew. The only way to be reconciled to God is to see him in the man Jesus Christ and receive him as their Lord God.

As you said, we have free will. Your short life here is a test of that freedom. God removed your memory so that you would be free to choose. If you remembered your past life, you would be coerced to follow God out of fear. God wants you to choose him because of love, not fear. People that reject Jesus are rejecting God a second time and there is no more sacrifice that God can make that is superior to that of Jesus.

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Sell, not give away. That is a very important distinction when you start to think about it. Like everything in the scriptures you can make of that what you want.

I believe that to be good you must do good. Selling the distractions to fund the effort makes sense. Turning into a hermit to pray to the sky does not.

[–]In-the-clouds[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

He said sell and give to the poor.

He did not say to give to the rich or to fatten the pastors that he did not call to preach in his name. Give to those more poor than yourself and truly you will be blessed.

Your idea of being free from distractions is another plus. But prayer is powerful. Taking time to be quiet and listen for God to speak is good. Reading and listening to God's word is another thing a man can do if he has less distractions. Our enemy keeps us busy with distractions of all kinds.